Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!hplabs!pyramid!csg From: csg@pyramid.pyramid.com (Carl S. Gutekunst) Newsgroups: comp.realtime Subject: Re: What is the future of realtime and RISC? Message-ID: <157142@pyramid.pyramid.com> Date: 30 May 91 04:14:46 GMT References: <1991May15.210430.1134@nbc1.ge.com> Organization: Pyramid Technology Corp., Mountain View, CA Lines: 20 >All the realtime software vendors I've spoken with tell me that the >Motorola 680x0 architecture is still the dominant one used in the >realtime world. Actually, no. The dominant architecture in realtime and embedded systems is the Intel MCS-48 family, including the 8051. That should tell you a lot of the reason why you don't see more RISC chips. Realtime is very conservative, and very cost sensitive: you don't use a processor that costs any more than you have to. Pyramid is still doing all kinds of imbedded stuff with the 68000 -- despite our main systems using the MIPS R3000 -- because the 68000 does every- thing we need it to do. Only for some new specialized stuff are we going to faster processors, where we can prove customers need that performance. Note that 99.9999% of the CISC vs. RISC issues are academic blither, of no consequence to the developer. The valid questions are: how fast does it go? What are the memory bandwidth requirements? Real estate, and glue chips? Can I predict latencies? And by far the most important of all: how much does it cost? You'll get answers all over the map, for both RISC and CISC.