Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!att!cbfsb!cbnewsb.cb.att.com!tgeorge From: tgeorge@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (timothy.d.george) Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1 Subject: Re: Two questions about the 3b1 Message-ID: <1991May30.202956.14296@cbfsb.att.com> Date: 30 May 91 20:29:56 GMT References: <10132@idunno.Princeton.EDU> <1991May29.224021.27786@blilly.UUCP> Sender: news@cbfsb.att.com Distribution: na Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 34 In article <1991May29.224021.27786@blilly.UUCP> bruce@balilly (Bruce Lilly) writes: >In article <10132@idunno.Princeton.EDU> yong@pupthy.princeton.edu (Young Rene) writes: >>Just curious: Is there going to be a X-window server program on >> Unix-PC? mgr is nice, but very few useful programs exists. > >Probably not. Not because it's difficult (first step would be a driver >that handles the keyboard and display) or because of memory or spped >problems, but because it's not worth the effort. Prices of computer >hardware are declining -- it's possible to get a system running X with a >monochrome gray-scale display for a few thousand dollars. It would >probably take quite a few man-weeks of time to port X to the 3b1, which >has a small (720x ~300) 1-bit deep (no "gray"-scale) green display. Unless >your time is nearly worthless, that's more expensive than buying an X >terminal or small system. > >> Is VIDPAL hardware patch helpful for porting X-Window? > >Nope. It does nothing to address size or depth or pixel aspect ratio of >the display, which are the biggest limitations. > >-- > Bruce Lilly blilly!balilly!bruce@sonyd1.Broadcast.Sony.COM But the VIDPAL simplifies the access to the screen, making it very similiar to a sun for the port. (Notice that MGR runs on Suns and 3b1's). Also, doing a port would certainly give you experience in writing X code. And some of the X terminals avaliable are 720*348 and cost around $1000. Without disk! The port on the server should not take more than 2 man weeks of work. Hopefully I'll get some more time soon to finish the X3b1 server in June. Tom Roehr attmail!scuzzy!tomr