Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!think.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!uunet!knuth!mjbtn!raider!elgamy!elg From: elg@elgamy.RAIDERNET.COM (Eric Lee Green) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy Subject: Re: 486 clone vs. Amiga 3000 Message-ID: <00675215513@elgamy.RAIDERNET.COM> Date: 25 May 91 23:51:53 GMT References: <1991May24.223604.19390@crash.cts.com> Organization: Eric's Amiga 2000 @ Home Lines: 35 From article <1991May24.223604.19390@crash.cts.com>, by uzun@pnet01.cts.com (Roger Uzun): > > [] > Around here a 33 Mhz 80486, with 1 floppy a 40Mb HD, 1 Mb of RAM, and > a VGA monitor costs $2475.00. This is an AMI motherboard with 64k cache. > There are cheaper systems available. > The above system is available from MICRO DEX, in the san diego area. > (619)467-9305. It is an ISA system. Are you sure you're not talking about a 33mhz 80*3*86 system? 33mhz 80486's only recently became available, I thought. In any event, note that: with the AMI motherboard, you need at least 2 banks of RAM to do interleaved access (i.e., get decent performance with that cache), that the 40mb HD you're talking about is probably a cheap Seacrate MFM or RLL drive with a huge interleave and a peak transfer time somewhere between a stumble and a crawl, that the VGA controller you're talking about is the bottom of the line 640x400x16 VGA with about 60 waitstates for each access to its onboard memory (no, I'm *NOT* joking, with a fast processor it really DOES need that many wait states)... in other words, maybe the processor is going fast, but it sure does have a slimeball of a system built around it! I must admit that I may buy a '386SX-based laptop portable one of these days, so that I can write in my accustomed position (laying on my back in bed :-), but I'm under no delusion that such a system is actually faster than an Amiga 3000 in everyday use. Raw CPU speed is only one part of what makes a system a system. Amdahl's Guideline says you ought to have 1mb/sec I/O bandwidth for every 1 MIPS of performance to get decent overall throughput, and most PC clones fail badly there. -- Eric Lee Green (318) 984-1820 P.O. Box 92191 Lafayette, LA 70509 elg@elgamy.RAIDERNET.COM uunet!mjbtn!raider!elgamy!elg Looking for a job -- need every bit of help I can find :-{.