Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!think.com!spool.mu.edu!uunet!mcsun!inesc!unl!unl!jpc From: jpc@fct.unl.pt (Jose Pina Coelho) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.games Subject: Re: Falcon: Operation Firefight: Defeating MiG-21s??? Message-ID: Date: 28 May 91 13:37:34 GMT Article-I.D.: terra.JPC.91May28133734 References: <6608@vela.acs.oakland.edu> Sender: news@fct.unl.pt (USENET News System) Organization: Universidade Nova de Lisboa -- Lisbon, Portugal Lines: 72 In-Reply-To: sphaak@vela.acs.oakland.edu's message of 28 May 91 04:44:54 GMT In article <6608@vela.acs.oakland.edu> sphaak@vela.acs.oakland.edu (sphaak) writes: > My question is: how do you defeat the MiG-21 in a dogfight? > [with an F16] I think it's a very close call, generaly, once it gets near, you have to play with airbreaks and flaps to make tighter turns and afterburner to jump to a clear place On and F15 (or is it the F16) the power/weight ratio is supperior to 1, so you can run up (90 degrees), cut power, dive, and get either missile lock or some lead. Be carefull about wing load (if it exists). And now for some ascii art: On more conventional dogfight: A) Both tight-turning. \ M- / | /F\ A.1) Try to gain some height quickly. Then cut power, add airbreaks, add full flaps. This should turn you quite quickly. Problems: - By the time you finish the turn - you are about to stall. - you are also a sitting duck. Open afterburner and try to get him with the machine gun (tricky). A.2) Try to run up in a 45deg spiral (so you are not a BIG EXHAUST) When you face him again dive, get missile lock and fire (must be a radar missile) A.3) A loop might put you behind him (Or give a clear angle for an IR seeker). But it must be a power ascent and a glided descent (Or you'll end right in front of him). B) Try to run him into the ground If the ground has mountains, try to fly a little over the top, and then downhill (as many automated fighters just see you, you may lure him through the mountain) -- Jose Pedro T. Pina Coelho | BITNET/Internet: jpc@fct.unl.pt Rua Jau N 1, 2 Dto | UUCP: ...!mcsun!unl!jpc 1300 Lisboa, PORTUGAL | Home phone: (+351) (1) 640767 - If all men were brothers, would you let one marry your sister ?