Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!think.com!spool.mu.edu!uunet!stanford.edu!msi.umn.edu!noc.MR.NET!mac.cc.macalstr.edu!sdfusc From: sdfusc@mac.cc.macalstr.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace Subject: Re: Plato Computers Message-ID: <1991May28.180142.605@mac.cc.macalstr.edu> Date: 29 May 91 00:01:42 GMT Article-I.D.: mac.1991May28.180142.605 References: <1991May21.204508.3427@HQ.Ileaf.COM> <1991May22.015227.24550@swbatl.sbc.com> <1991May22.211813.585@mac.cc.macalstr.edu> <1991May23.195942.23691@swbatl.sbc.com> Distribution: na Organization: Macalester College Lines: 142 ]In article <1991May23.195942.23691@swbatl.sbc.com>, ammrk@swbatl.sbc.com (Mike R. Kraml) writes: > In article <1991May22.211813.585@mac.cc.macalstr.edu> sdfusc@mac.cc.macalstr.edu writes: >>In article <1991May22.015227.24550@swbatl.sbc.com>, ammrk@swbatl.sbc.com (Mike R. Kraml) writes: >>> In article <1991May21.204508.3427@HQ.Ileaf.COM> ltaylor@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Laura Taylor) writes: >>>>I called Plato Computers myself to find out if they were >>>>offering monitors with their A3000s for the Power Up Upgrade >>>>and they said that no they weren't. They said that they did >>>>this for a few people, but aren't doing it anymore. >>> >>> This is true guys. I am sorry to say that Commodore stopped him from >>> continuing the offer. It appears that a few dealers caught wind of this and >>> through a fit to Commodore. >> >> Gee, I wonder why? Maybe the fact that the dealer kit from Commodore >>contained one letter from the distributor stating that the deals couldn't be >>mixed, and another from the Vice President of CBM sales stating that the >>Power up deal couldn't be mixed with any other promotions made them wonder >>what PLATO was doing? Dealers weren't supposed to be confused when they began >>to lose customers to another place offering something that their contracts >>expressly forbid them from offering? > > Thats bogus bull! Havn't you been reading the net before posting. A few > messages back is an article stating the someones dealer (NOT Plato) stated > they too could have offered the deal, they just didn't want to loose the > extra $500.00 profit. He admitted it to his customer!!! > >> >> Their fault? I doubt it. If the dealer had read his contract >>carefully enough, or listened to people who called him questioning the deal, he >>might have done better. Instead he spread misinformation and tried to pull a >>fast one over on Commodore and his distributor. > Pull a fast one over on his distributor, his distributor was the one who > pointed out the deal in the first place. He is the one that made it possible. > >> >>>The bottom line is, the >>> winers won. >> >> Oh really? Sounds to me like you don't care where the deal comes from, >>as long as its cheap. I assume you wouldn't have cared if the monitors had >>been stolen from other dealers (essentially they were)? It didn't bother you > > Stolen: Get real, Commodore Gave them to him. Better watch your accusations. > >>that by scamming his distributor this guy was selling at a figure that was >>probably BELOW dealer cost? > As I said, his distributor made it possible. He was loving it, he made > money too. > >>Gee Mike, maybe you should have thought before you started posting >>misinformation all over the nets. Aren't you the user who told use every > > My guess is that you are NOT one of the 15 that got the free monitor. > Bummer, sorry your so upset. As far as misinformation goes, I simply passed > on what my dealer told me. The deal existed, now it don't. Don't blame me, > I was just trying to help the folks on the net. I GOT NOTHING FROM THIS!!!! > NOT ONE LOUSY CENT!!! So get off my back. Mike, I'm sorry, but your wrong, plain wrong. I told you you were mistaken from the start, and I find your incessent refusal to believe the truth frustrating. Here's the deal. I understand why your frustrated; Plato lied to you too, and thats probably why your confused. I'll type in a letter from the Power Up dealer pack to help you get the picture. If you want, I can mail you a xerox copy (I'll have to check with my boss first on that, though.) Here goes: ----- April 29, 1991 Dear Commodore Authorized Reseller: Commodore is pleased to announce a special offer on Amiga 3000-16/50 and 1950 monitors. From now until June 30, 1991, or until supplies last, you will receive a FREE 1950 monitor with every A3000-15/50 purchased at your regular dealer cost. This program is not valid in conjunction with any other Commodore dealer incentive, promotion or special pricing program. That includes the Power Up program. Amiga 3000s purchased on a Power Up order form, at a reduced dealer price, wil not be shipped with a free 1950 monitor. If you have any questions regarding the program, please contact your Commodore Sales Representative. Sincerely, Ronald E. Stanczak Vice President, Sales. ----- If Plato was an authorized dealer, then they should have received one of these. In fact, I called them and told them that the deals couldn't be mixed more than once. They, like you, ignored me. > >>dealer got the free monitor, but that only PLATO was giving them away free? >>There was a tasty bit of misinformation, considering the fact that NO dealer >>received the free monitor with the power up deal. When I called Plato and >>asked what was up, the guy on the other end of the phone told me how STUPID >>his distributor was, how if he filled out seperate forms, he could get both >>deals. Doesn't sound very honest, does it? Maybe you should think before you >>flame every dealer in the country for trying to find out who was illegally >>undercutting them. > > Illegally undercutting them, give me a break, if it was so illigal, how come > Commodore honored the 15 that he already sold? Why didn't they throw him in > jail for stealing the monitor from the other dealers (as you put it)? I was speaking figuratively-- if dealers buy from the distributor, and he steals monitors from them (via scam or their own ignorance) it is the other dealers who will have to pay in the end, through higher costs. Your right in a way, though, because some of those costs would have probably been passed on to the customers. I guess it was more like stealing from the customers and the dealers... > > What > a joke, grow up, all is fair in love and retail!! I think that sums up your attitude best. I guess it didn't matter who suffered, as long as someone got something on the cheap. > >> >> Doug >> SDFUSC@MACALSTR.EDU > > > -- > ============================================================================= > Mike Kraml - Manager-Finance MECHANIZATION - SWBT - (the HARD Hack) > UUCP: {uunet, bellcore, texbell}...!swbatl.sbc.com!ammrk > ============================================================================= Doug SDFUSC@MACALSTR.EDU