Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!wuarchive!uunet!ogicse!clark!pro-hindugods.cts.com!apollo From: apollo@pro-hindugods.cts.com (Amrit Chauhan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Subject: Re: Apple ][ BBS Software Message-ID: <1991May30.042425.6881@clark.edu> Date: 30 May 91 03:22:11 GMT Sender: usenet@clark.edu Organization: The lazy sysop did not think we needed one. Lines: 113 In-Reply-To: message from greg@hoss.unl.edu apollo@pro-hindugods.cts.com replies to: >>greg@hoss.unl.edu (Name?) writes: >>Don't forget to mention that MD-BASIC requires an Apple IIgs to run, and >>adds to the price of the product. Another fun things is that the code >>comes in AppleSoft with sequential line numbers, making editing a chore >>without a renumbering program. MD-BASIC can't only operate on the Apple IIgs. How can there be over 50 or greater ProLine sites operating on Apple //e's?! MD-Basic is not Apple IIgs specific...you may need to upgrade the lower //'s a bit, but it still works on them. You may have been talking about the actual compiler...I'm talking about ProLine BBS not the compiler. >>>Morgan introduced it in like 1984 and ever >>>since then quite a few sysops have added mods to it. >> >>(Careful with your pronouns. I don't believe Morgan invented AppleSoft >>BASIC... :-) I was talking about ProLine :-) >>>He has welcomed it. We >>>have a great BBS. And no it's not expensive. You can pick up a copy of >>>ProLine from Programs Plus for just under $100...more like $95. It's a >>great >deal then! >> >>Let me quote from the Product Guide from the Morgan Davis Group: >> >>ProLine $195.50 >>ModemWorks 59.95 >>MD-BASIC 49.95 >> ------ >> $305.30 You do NOT need all the programs listed above for ProLine to work. You buy ProLine from Programs Plus for $95 and you are all set to go. You don't NEED ModemWorks or MD-BASIC for ProLine to run. I don't own either one and I bought ProLine from Programs Plus for $95 and am running on it right now... is that expensive for all of ProLine's capabilites? >>If you want a BBS that can run on a HD-less system, then ProLine is not >>the right BBS software for you. (Req. 5 MB on one volume, minimum.) How much room do you want to run a BBS on!? 5 MB is hardly a big deal. If you're serious about running a BBS, then hell, you need a LOT more than just 5 MB...that's an absurd point. >>>If you're looking for networking capablities...you >>>can't chose anything BUT ProLine... >> >>Not for long. Networking exists for GBBS "Pro" and METAL. For Internet >>networking, I am told that it won't be long 'til METAL has that. Regardless of the networking capabilities of GBBS MIGHT have, ProLine still has by far the best ProLine specific network. It has been a growing network for well over nine years...GBBS, IF it does start, will be just that...just starting...ProLine is still the BEST, and will be for a LONG while, networking BBS on the market for the Apple //! >>Still, networking is not what it takes to get people interested in your >>system. If you have too many net.messages, some users won't like it. I >>feel that way now when I called L&L Support BBS, which just became part of >>FidoNet, and I was faced with over 1000 new messages. No thank you. My >>next modification to my ACOS system is to switch it over to independent >>message counters. Well, users can chose which topics they want to be joined to, or if they don't even want that conference, they can unjoin themselves from that. No one is forcing you to read all the net messages...you join what you want and it will keep track of what you are joined to ONLY and not give you the 100 messages from every other conference. Let's get that straight...and hell, I have about 40 users that JUST use the conference areas...who says it steers people away...it has attracted so many to my system! >>>It's >>>worth the investment if you're looking for network capabilities. >> >>True. To recap, ProLine by Morgan Davis has got to be the most comprehensive message system on the Apple Market Today. There is no threat by GBBS or any other software for taking that title away in the near future. ProLine has been establishing its name for over 6-9 years now, and a new system will be just that...brand new and until it has had time to mature, it won't be able to compete with ProLine. ProLine is flexible and I've heard so much crap about boards for the IBM (TAG) and all they're good for is little 12 year-olds that run around playing GOD of the BBS, taking this and that away. I'm very impressed with Morgan's program and your criticisms (sp--it's late) are not well founded at this time. About the renumbering program, if you really want to make serious changes to the system, you as a hopefully knowledgable programmer sure as hell better have a renumbering program! Morgan doesn't want just anyone changing his system around. He did that to discourage sysops that really don't know enough about BASIC (like me) from totally ruining their systems. I don't see why that is a fault of ProLine. At least you CAN change it and even add programs to it. I did, and my knowledge of BASIC is three years in Middle School...how much easier does it get! Still a firm supporter of ProLine... Amrit ==The Hindu Love Gods BBS - - - - Bloomfield Hills, MI - - - - 313/644-0481=== ProLine:apollo@pro-hindugods | Internet:apollo@pro-hindugods.cts.com | UUCP: crash!pro-hindugods!apollo | ARPA: crash!pro-hindugods!apollo@nosc.mil | ==============================================================================