Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!menudo.uh.edu!uace0 From: uace0@menudo.uh.edu (Michael B. Vederman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech Subject: Re: Stealing vectors... IT's already documented! Keywords: cookies XBRA Message-ID: <1991May30.131702.26440@menudo.uh.edu> Date: 30 May 91 13:17:02 GMT References: <1991May29.190047.15959@wam.umd.edu> <1991May29.234238.24892@menudo.uh.edu> <1991May30.115257.19816@cs.ruu.nl> Organization: University of Houston Lines: 43 In article <1991May30.115257.19816@cs.ruu.nl> nico@cs.ruu.nl (Nico Verwer) writes: >If this is so, why should I use the cooking jar? I guess there are many >people like me, who ocasionally write a program which needs to steal a >vector. If Atari refuses to make the specification of the cooking jar >PD, it is better to use the XBRA standard, which is well documented and >PD. Ooops... It's supposed to be the "COOKIE JAR" not cooking... :-) The cookie jar is an attempt to allow resident programs to leave a memory resident 'cookie' uniquely identifying that application for any other application which is aware of it, in one common location. Then, a longword following the unique ID can point to some application specific routine/ structure/whatever, or the longword can mean something itself. The 'cookies' are stored in a table which you can add/delete or change. >I don't understand why Atari releases the "how to steal a vector" >specification only to registered developers. Is this to ``protect'' You misunderstood me, so let me make myself clearer: ATARI DID NOT RELEASE THE 11 COMMANDMENTS FOR TAKING VECTORS! Charles F. Johnson (CodeHead and Little Green Footballs Software) did! As far as I know, Atari has never sanctioned that methods described, altho the methods described are widely accepted and practiced. I would GUESS that since Atari is aware of these practices, they will attempt to keep them working as long as possible in all future TOS/GEM revisions (IMHO). >-- >Nico Verwer | nico@cs.ruu.nl >Dept. of Computer Science, University of Utrecht | phone: +31 30 533921 >p.o. box 80.089, 3508 TB Utrecht, The Netherlands | fax: +31 30 513791 - mike -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Double Click Me | Double Click Software | P.O. Box 741206 | Houston, Tx, 77274 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Voice: (713)977-6520 | DC DESKTOP | DC FORMATTER | DC UTILITIES | and others