Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!think.com!spool.mu.edu!uunet!viusys!uxui!unislc!mrc From: mrc@unislc.uucp (Mike Cederholm) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm Subject: Re: WANTED: America Online OPINIONS Message-ID: <1991May28.192453.15345@unislc.uucp> Date: 28 May 91 19:24:53 GMT Article-I.D.: unislc.1991May28.192453.15345 References: <1991May22.065212.29985@agate.berkeley.edu> > <1991May23.024406.3740@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> <1991May23.125934.10345@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> <49432@ut-emx.uucp> Organization: unisys Lines: 55 awessels@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Allen Wessels) writes: >In article <1991May23.125934.10345@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> dorner@pequod.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Dorner) writes: >>One thing I don't hear people saying is why they bother to pay >>for these services when they have the Internet. What do you get >>from AOL that you don't from the Internet? >I don't use AOL, but I do use CI$ in spite of what is offered on the Internet. >More companies make official announcements and press releases on CI$ than on >the Internet. More reps post more frequently on CI$. Bug fixes are availabe >in dedicated vendor forums. >In my experience, there are more high-end users who respond to posts on CI$. >Most of the major Mac mags have an editor or writer that read and respond >regularly. I've seen more niche products discussed on CI$, and new products >are also usually discussed before I see similar topics on the Internet. >CI$ also has online conferencing, and the Mac forums sponsor a monthly guest >poster. John Sculley was the listed guest a few months ago. (I hedge because >not much beyond standard press release stuff was posted.) This friday (if my >memory serves), a special conference (basically like IRC) about 7.0 with >Apple reps will be run. >Finally, CI$ has a pretty broad spectrum of users, and it "feels" richer in >terms of topic breadth and the number of people who bridge topic areas. >The downside is the $ of course. I know people who spend hundreds of dollars >monthly in connect time. I get by on $50 a month with Navigator, CI$'s >automated comm program. During the last week I have been fortunate in finding a means to get to the internet. I now could ftp to SUMEX to get any information/etc available.... only one probelm.. I keep getting a "permission denied" message back from sumex-aim.stanford.edu when I execute: ftp sumex-aim.stanford.edu It is my understanding that I should be able to use the user "anonymous" and get files from the public directories. My login name on the machine that I am comming from is mrc... is this keeping me from getting in ... or What am I doing wrong here... Thanks for any help anyone is able to give.... "No man is an island, His constant companion, the IRS... will always be there with him.....:" +=======================================================================+ Mike Cederholm dba. | (801)-254-7039 pineHOUSE Development | (801)-594-4460 @ Unisys,SLC So. Jordan, Utah | (801)-480-5896 - digital pager - SLC +=======================================================================+ uucp: mrc!unislc@sun.com internet: still working on it.. +=======================================================================+