Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!apple!bc From: bc@Apple.COM (bill coderre) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system Subject: Re: About the Finder... (was Re: System 7.0 screwyness/Neat Finder feature) Message-ID: <53422@apple.Apple.COM> Date: 29 May 91 03:13:05 GMT References: <270792.2841D1B1@cmhgate.FIDONET.ORG> Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA Lines: 56 Adam.Frix@p18.f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Adam Frix) writes: C'mon, Apple, stop acting like silly little boys. I don't need that extra "cute" code sitting around, taking up space on my HD or in my System heap. Every little bit counts. (Did anyone currently at Apple ever read Steven Levy's _Hackers?_ Probably not.) I would appreciate as lean an operating system as possible, while still providing all the benefits you've decided to provide. Some of us are still using (and some are still _buying_) Macs with a 4 meg limit on RAM. Every byte counts, and if I could save even 15K by excluding the cute cmd-opt-shift-tab-space bar-clear "hey, look at my name up in lights" features, I'm for it. I personally don't give a diddly-squat about the Lisa development team. I sure as hell don't want them taking up even a few bytes of precious space in my limited system. Grow up, Apple. Realize your responsibilities to your users in this respect, if not others. (BTW, I hope this settles any question of who's a "butt-kissing apologist for Apple" around here. They get their lumps from me when I deem it necessary.) Gee, I guess you don't appreciate at all the fact that System 7 runs just fine on a Mac Plus. A machine Apple doesn't even MAKE any more. It runs fine because over 100 people cared about all the Plus owners enough to make it happen. They performance-tuned and memory-minimized it to make it happen. And we're not talking about "somewhat compatible" here. Although you can't use System 7 virtual memory, you can use Balloon Help, Aliases, True Type, the Edition Manager (Publish/Subscribe), and Personal FileSharing just fine on your Plus. You know any other company that does this? That has this kind of "responsibility to its users"? You could also get this VAST improvement in functionality for LITTLE or NO COST. Or if you do pay the very reasonable list price, you get full dealer support and toll-free phone support from Apple. You know any other computer maker that does THIS? C'mon, there must be ONE out there! Grow up, Mr Frix. Apple has an incredibly high standard for "responsibility to its users." Even you. bill coderre I take two lumps in my tea, thank you! ps. your argument about "special features" taking up extra memory is fallacious. Although they might be on disk, they aren't loaded into your precious heap until they are USED. pps. I am not an Apple spokesman and post in my spare time, out of my own personal "responsibility to users." My posting is neither sanctioned nor recompensed.