Newsgroups: rec.birds Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!think.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!psuvax1!marcone From: marcone@math.psu.edu (Alberto G. Marcone) Subject: Re: round-the-world birding trip Message-ID: <$3aHs_ph@cs.psu.edu> Sender: news@cs.psu.edu (Usenet) Nntp-Posting-Host: jacobi.math.psu.edu Organization: Department of Mathematics, Pennsylvania State University References: <969@macuni.mqcc.mq.oz> <3078@sun13.scri.fsu.edu> Date: Wed, 29 May 1991 19:07:29 GMT Lines: 41 In article <3078@sun13.scri.fsu.edu> sandee@sun8.scri.fsu.edu (Daan Sandee) writes: > >I doubt you will find anything documented on Italy. Italians >don't look at birds, they shoot them. > >Daan Sandee sandee@scri.fsu.edu >Supercomputer Computations Research Institute >Florida State University, Tallahassee, FL 32306-4052 (904) 644-7045 Being Italian I felt I need to say something about this. It is true that activities like birdwatching are far less widespread in Italy than in most other countries (I myself became a birdwatcher in the USA) but the sensibility of Italians about environmental problems is steadily on the rise. Daan refers explicitly to hunting but probably does not know the widespread opposition to hunting in Italy: last year there was a referendum aimed at virtually abolishing hunting in Italy and (if I recall this correctly) about 90% of the ballots cast were against hunting. Unfortunately less than 50% of the voters cast their votes and so the referendum did not work [this is widely attributable to the lobbying of the weapon industry and the hunting associations, which managed to split the referendum from the local elections and hold it at the beginning of summer with as little publicity as possible]. I think that on this the gap between the sensibility of the average Italian citizen and the political system is particularly wide (even for Italian standards): hunters are a small group very well organized and (for the moment) they have managed, resorting to all means, to avoid being outlawed, as the Italian ecological situation I think warrants. Since this is not trial.soc.culture.italian I go back to my point saying that when I moved to the USA three years ago I was surprised at the amount of social approval that hunting has in this country: the New York Times has a weekly column on hunting, but no Italian newspaper would publish anything like that, because it knows that it will be heavily boycotted (and few people will read it, anyway). I am sending directly to the original poster a few references I have for birding in Italy. This wasn't intended to be offensive for anyone: we should just be careful to avoid reasoning by stereotypes... Bye, Alberto marcone@math.psu.edu