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From: n9020351@unicorn.cc.wwu.edu (James D. Del Vecchio)
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Subject: Re: PMC .44 Hollow Points
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Date: 28 May 91 12:11:10 GMT
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decwrl!well.sf.ca.us!well!rsl@uunet.UU.NET (Roy Stuart Levin) writes:

#Anybody out there got any experience with ammo from PMC corp.?  A friend
#gave me some rounds for self defense.  They were marked
#PMC 44 S&W spl  and they are VERY hollow points,I dont know if they're
#jacketed at all, their bullets are copper colored (they may indeed be
#copper for all I know or some copper colored alloy) and have no posts like
#a hydra shock.  My friend swears they are hot stuff for a self defense
#round but I know nothing of PMC ammo and this style of bullet.  Maybe they
#are fully jacketed hollow points with the jacketing having a copper color.
#Thanks for all postings here or reply rsl@well@uunet i.e. rsl on the well


Called the "ultramag", aka THP: tubular hollow point.  38 or 44 spl

38 spl	66 gr	1542 fps	348 fpe		102 momentum
44 spl	110 gr	1200 fps	352 fpe		132 momentum 

some standard stats for compairson:

38 spl	158 gr	755 fps		200 fpe		119 momentum
44 spl 	240 gr	764 fps		311 fpe		183 momentum

  The seem to be light, fast "tube" bullets with less recoil.
I've never bought any, but you can call 702-294-0024 to reach
Eldorado Cartridge Corp.

  I've heard they zip through stuff w/o expanding.  The one shooting I
read of was a one shot stop per Massad Ayoob.  Zipped through the armed
perp's sholder flesh, causing him to fall and gout blood.   The tube was
mush when it reached the wall behind him. 

Jim Del Vecchio.