Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!think.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!att!pacbell.com!ames!haven.umd.edu!mimsy!DEC-Lite.Stanford.EDU From: andy@DEC-Lite.Stanford.EDU (Andy Freeman) Newsgroups: rec.guns Subject: Re: Ordinance Gelatin, where to get it? Message-ID: <34977@mimsy.umd.edu> Date: 29 May 91 02:04:55 GMT Sender: magnum@mimsy.umd.edu Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University Lines: 27 Approved: gun-control@cs.umd.edu In article <34958@mimsy.umd.edu> U16244%uicvm.uic.edu@OHSTVMA.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU writes: #Perhaps this expert who has confronted Marshall was accosting Marshall in a #blowhard manner. Maybe if we asked him in all politeness, instead of an #accusing manner, he'd answer nicely. Would you answer some dickhead who #says he thinks you're full of shit, and then wants your data on a subject? Having lots of experience with precisely this situation, namely, some dickhead doesn't like my conclusion and demands my data, I've found that the most effective response is to provide the data. Doing so is both good science and great for my ego. Then again, my data withstands hostile scrutiny. The wound ballistics field is in desparate need of good science. A good start would be to eliminate no-brain bozos who think that "Hydro-Shok ammo expands reliably" is inconsistent with "The post in Hydro-Shok ammo doesn't affect its expansion characteristics." (Hint: Hydro-Shok ammo may expand reliably both with and without the post. Reliable expansion is demonstrated by testing Hydro-Shok ammo. The post's effects are demonstrated by comparing the expansion of Hydro-Shok ammo with the post with Hydro-Shok ammo without the post. Coming up with the latter is left as an exercise for the reader.) -andy -- UUCP: {arpa gateways, sun, decwrl, uunet, rutgers}!neon.stanford.edu!andy ARPA: andy@neon.stanford.edu BELLNET: (415) 723-3088