Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!udel!haven.umd.edu!mimsy!uunet.UU.NET From: decwrl!well.sf.ca.us!well!tmi@uunet.UU.NET (Peter Kasler) Newsgroups: rec.guns Subject: Re: Ordinance Gelatin, where to get it? Message-ID: <35062@mimsy.umd.edu> Date: 30 May 91 20:26:22 GMT Sender: magnum@mimsy.umd.edu Lines: 29 Approved: gun-control@cs.umd.edu Don't know where/from whom you heard that Sanow had ever worked with Marty Fackler, but it's not true. They've never worked together; Sanow has never been in a wound ballistics lab with Fackler, let alone in the Army's lab. The person who challenged Evan Marshall to make his sources available to any ligitimate researcher is Alex Jason, among other things President of the International Wound Ballistics Association. He made the challenge at the 1990 SOF convention during a presentation he was giving. He's since repeated it several times. Marshall has never responded directly and of course refuses to provide his source infor and related data to any legitimate wound ballistics researcher. They all agree that Marshall is nothing more than another opportunistic gun writer, except that he's using his former cop position for a little extra mileage. Obviously, it works with the majority of uninformed gun rag readers. I won't comment on your remarks about Bradley Steiner and Mas Ayoob for several reasons, including that it's unprofessional and Mas is a good friend. But as to your own remark that there're times when one must "point and hope for the best", I can't resist commenting: While it is true that many poorly-trained individuals do that under stress, a well-trained person will do considerably more than that. "Point shooting" is a rather ambiguous term at best, but there are valid, effective techinques that some people mistakenly call point shooting. -- Pete