Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!ncar!unmvax!nmt.edu!nraoaoc From: nraoaoc@nmt.edu (Daniel Briggs) Newsgroups: rec.skydiving Subject: Re: High altitude landings Message-ID: <1991May28.201057.12714@nmt.edu> Date: 28 May 91 20:10:57 GMT References: <6138@ptsfa.PacBell.COM> <1991May24.195359.8410@cc.curtin.edu.au> <918@lhdsy1.chevron.com> Reply-To: dbriggs@nrao.edu (Daniel Briggs) Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM Lines: 27 In article <918@lhdsy1.chevron.com> yzarn@lhdsy1.chevron.com (Philip Yzarn de Louraille) writes: >Yes, the calculations shown by the MIT guy seemed correct but an >increase of only 25% in landing speed at 9000' is wrong. It is not >enough and plenty of people have experienced it. Maybe the velocity >square law does not apply and the velocity law in a linear fashion >applies, in this case, the predicted landing speed is about 50-60% >faster (at 9000') than at sea level. This seems more like it. Geez, this seems to be getting into the realm where some real data would help. You know, we all go through a good ten grand altitude differential or more, nearly every time we jump. Why doesn't someone borrow a couple of hang glider instruments and take along a recording walkman. Hop and pop at ten grand, and read off the altitude, sink rate, and temperature all the way down. Thermals and wind will be a problem, I grant you, but maybe on a calm day at a flat drop zone we can tell the difference between 25% and 50% increase in sink rates. Anyone got any good ideas on how best to minimize the contaminants? Carry a wind speed sensor, and only compare comparable points? Ignore it, and model fit to the whole data set? Whatever, I think something useful might come out of it. Just a thought, -- This is a shared guest account, please send replies to dbriggs@nrao.edu (Internet) (505) 835-2974 Dan Briggs / NRAO / P.O. Box O / Socorro, NM / 87801 (U.S. Snail)