Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!uunet!lll-winken!sun-barr!newstop!sun!amdcad!amdcad!military From: henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Power Armor Message-ID: <1991May29.011254.7294@amd.com> Date: 24 May 91 19:40:35 GMT References: <1991May24.030024.8386@amd.com> Sender: military@amd.com Organization: U of Toronto Zoology Lines: 43 Approved: military@amd.com From: henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) >From: camelsho@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (James Seymour) >...contention that we are near the tech level needed for [Powered Armor] There are a couple of crucial shortfalls in our current technology, I think. One is the need for force-feedback technology for effective control. We will see powered armor after, not before, we have high-quality "waldos", robot arms that follow the motions of a separate human operator. Current waldos are decidedly crude, and in particular do not give the operator any tactile feedback on what's going on at the other end. Worse, there is little work being done on improving them. Second is the sheer mass of both the necessary motors and the necessary power source. Portable energy-storage systems have pitifully small energy capacities for their mass. I'd guess you would end up with some sort of fuel-burning engine (baby gas turbine?) driving a hydraulic pump. Batteries are hopeless; don't expect battery-operated powered armor until electric cars are plentiful and perform well. The motor situation is improving, but energy storage isn't, much. >What real use would PA have in combat? I think this is the real question. Its advantages will be minimal unless it's good enough armor to make it just about invulnerable to well-equipped infantry. Otherwise it is cheaper and simpler to just field more infantry. Considering rifles, heavy machine guns, grenades, and the smaller shoulder- launched missiles, that level of protection is a tall order. You can't assume that the armored soldier has superior weapons, because it will be easy to equip infantry with the same weapons -- the infantry won't find them as easy to carry, but there will be lots more infantrymen to carry them, and the infantry is used to doing pack-mule duty :-). One possible exception is if the armored soldiers make heavy use of chemical and biological weaponry, since they'll have a much easier time carrying full life support and adequate cooling. -- And the bean-counter replied, | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology "beans are more important". | henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry