Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!think.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!lll-winken!sun-barr!newstop!sun!amdcad!amdcad!military From: stevenp@decwrl.pa.dec.com (Steven Philipson) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: YF22 vs. YF23 Why? Message-ID: <1991May29.011054.6826@amd.com> Date: 24 May 91 01:55:16 GMT References: <1991May9.064042.12823@amd.com> <1991May1.030508.20355@amd.com> <1991Apr24.054326.18229@amd.com> <1991Apr29.052647.6205@amd.com> Sender: military@amd.com Organization: DEC Palo Alto Lines: 31 Approved: military@amd.com From: stevenp@decwrl.pa.dec.com (Steven Philipson) In an earlier article I responded to our moderators statement that for ground attack, cheap, A-10 type aircraft are desired. I quoted an analysis by Gen Merrill A. McPeak that appeared in Aviation Week. McPeak argued for expensive, mutlti-role fighters, saying "the gulf war has essentially disproven the idea 'that cheaper is better'". [Carl Rigney] replied -- > Except didn't the rules of engagement prohibit firing without > visual contact? What good all-weather capability then? The FLIR sensors on F-15E's ALLOWED visual contact under conditions that would not have been possible with a cheap, good-weather only attack aircraft. > He's talking about attack planes, though. I don't see many lessons > learned about air-to-air combat from Desert Storm other than [...] Yes, the entire discussion was about attack aircraft. McPeak noted that there is considerable value in having an attack aircraft that is also capable of handling fighter threats. This is part of why he feels that the "mudfighter" concept has lost credibility. [Seems like a strange lesson to learn from DS, in which the threat of enemy fighters degraded quickly. --CDR] Steve Philipson stevenp@decwrl.dec.com