Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!think.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!lll-winken!sun-barr!newstop!sun!amdcad!amdcad!military From: cdr@amd.com (Carl Rigney) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Expensive fighters Message-ID: <1991May29.011112.6898@amd.com> Date: 24 May 91 02:48:37 GMT Sender: military@amd.com Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. Lines: 38 Approved: military@amd.com From: cdr@amd.com (Carl Rigney) stevenp@decwrl.dec.com writes: > The FLIR sensors on F-15E's ALLOWED visual contact under conditions > that would not have been possible with a cheap, good-weather only > attack aircraft. Sure, I'm not at all surprised. Did the KTO Rules of Engagement permit firing on a FLIR contact, and if so why were planes coming back on cloudy days with their bombs still on? A case could be made that in the cloudy European Theater where NATO is in a life-or-death struggle against the Warsaw Pact that RoE would be relaxed and the collateral damage vs. German civilians accepted, but that doesn't seem like a very credible opponent anymore. I'm just suggesting that equipment should be chosen to fit the doctrine that it'll be used to fight under (with flexibility for when doctrine shifts). I know the Pentagon loves their state-of-the-art fighters that push technology and budgets to the wall, but it still seems true to me that pilot training makes the biggest single difference in performance, training requires air time, and the more expensive the plane the less time it'll spend in the air training. It's a related problem to buying lots of aircraft and too few spares because no one wants to command spares. I wonder if the argument that if planes were cheaper, there could be more of them and thus more command slots open, would fly? OK, I'm crossing my own boundary on politics, so I'll let myself be rebutted and then we'll move it to e-mail. Anyone for a soc.politics.defense? Or if its unmoderated, it'd have to be talk... -- Carl Rigney cdr@amd.com