Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!stanford.edu!eos!data.nas.nasa.gov!news From: esot@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Eric Sotnak) Newsgroups: soc.religion.eastern Subject: Re: Gurus Message-ID: <1991May28.173120.13014@nas.nasa.gov> Date: 28 May 91 17:31:20 GMT References: <1991May22.193018.17384@nas.nasa.gov> Sender: news@nas.nasa.gov Organization: University of Rochester, Rochester NY Lines: 68 Approved: prabhu@amelia.nas.nasa.gov A few words in response to Tom Simmonds: -- A teacher is important in Buddhism, not because she is necessary in order to lead you by the hand from ignorance to enlightenment, but because an enlightened teacher is able to help you avoid falling into error. -- It is very common to find people who, having begun practicing some form of meditation or other "spiritual discipline", describe in glowing terms some profound experience they have undergone. More often than not, people justify their attribution of "genuineness" to such experiences on the basis of the ineffability or uniqueness of the experiences (e.g., "There's no way to describe it in words," "It defied rational thought," "It was unlike anything I had ever felt before," etc.). Experiences of this sort may, indeed, even have transforming effects. Nonetheless, it does not follow that the experience, no matter how powerful or (seemingly) profound is an experience of enlightenment. One function a teacher can perform in the Buddhist tradition is to identify such experiences for what they are -- and for what they are not. Notice, too, that it is not the EXPERIENCE of enlightenment that is of importance in the buddhist tradition, but the STATE of being enlightened. (Sub-note: In some important respects, enlightenment is not completely beyond words. It is possible to attribute a "content" to the enlightenment "experience", viz., the realization / understanding of the essencelessness / emptiness / dependently originated "nature" of phenomena. But understanding these words or descriptions of enlightenment is not, automatically, to understand reality AS essenceless / empty / dependently originated, and it is this latter sort of understanding that makes possible the transcendence of grasping / attachment.) -- A teacher is not, indeed, necessary in order to make one see Reality "as it really is." The enlightened sage perceives the very same reality as the ignorant person. What is different is the WAY in which (one and the same) reality is perceived. Again, a function of an enlightened teacher is to lead one away from ways of seeing reality which are colored by one's pre-existing cognitive structures in such a way that they (the cognitive structures) interfere with one's leading a life of liberation. The Buddha taught an anti-metaphysical middle way, i.e., a middle way between the extreme of (various forms of) absolutism, on the one hand, and the extreme of (various forms of) nihilism on the other. The Buddha was not a metaphysician who was concerned to defend some particular philosophical / metaphysical view. On the contrary, the Buddha taught that holding any metaphysical view, even one prescribing ways to eliminate afflicitons, could easily become an affliciton in its own right. A function of a Buddhist teacher, therefore, is to help the student / seeker avoid becoming attached to a metaphysical view. -- The buddhist path is often characterized, in the mahayana tradition at least, as having two facets, viz., wisdom and compassion. Enlightenment, as such, is traditionally associated with the attainment of wisdom. But Buddhist wisdom is useless unless it finds expression in the exercise of compassion. Compassion, on the other hand, must be exercised in the right way. In other words, compassion must be informed by wisdom, and wisdom must manifest itself in compassion. Only by balancing each against the other is the buddist path manifested. -- ******************************************************************** Eric Sotnak | "No absurdity is too fantastic esot@uhura.cc.rochester.edu | to gain support" | - Antoine Arnauld