Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!sei.cmu.edu!fs7.ece.cmu.edu!o.gp.cs.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!jb3o+ From: jb3o+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jon Allen Boone) Newsgroups: comp.admin.policy Subject: Re: Harrassment via email Message-ID: Date: 3 Jun 91 14:23:36 GMT References: , <1545@caslon.cs.arizona.edu> Distribution: comp Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 38 In-Reply-To: <1545@caslon.cs.arizona.edu> gln@cs.arizona.edu (GaRY NEweLl) writes: > Maybe it is just me but I think that there are sections of this "policy" that > simply reek to high heaven. This whole thing seems to set up an environment > where suspicion is rampant and where people are actually encouraged to > undermine other students/faculty etc. This does make sense in cases of > sabotage and theft and so on - but to tie "net-behavior" into this is > absurd in my opinion... > You mileage may vary, but in our department, there isn't much (if any) suspicion - I was hired as sys-admin and when I signed up as such, I agreed not to go rampant in other people's directories. In fact, other than two times when the people couldn't be reached, I haven't gone into people's directory areas without prior permission being given. I've very little interest in snooping on my users. Certainly, time and again, I think it might be keen to know what was REALLY going on and where, but I have never seen any of the problems like what you mention that you suspect. Certainly, we have a few problems in our campus-wide facilities which encourage people to be suspicious - I've known a number of undergrads (sorry for the stereo-type, but they really were undergrads) who abuse or attempt to abuse the facilities. However, I've not heard of a case (other than a particular CS prof) where someone caused rampant destruction and wasn't an undergrad. (Note: The CS prof put a virus on a piece of software that was distributed to 3 or 4 classes (about 200 people each) and was publicly availble via appleshare - it was kinda funny - but then again, I didn't have to use the software that semester! ----------------------------------|++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ | "He divines remedies against injuries; | "Words are drugs." | | he knows how to turn serious accidents | -Antero Alli | | to his own advantage; whatever does not | | | kill him makes him stronger." | "Culture is for bacteria." | | - Friedrich Nietzsche | - Christopher Hyatt | -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-