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From: casey@gauss.llnl.gov (Casey Leedom)
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Subject: Re: Telebit and V.32bis
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Date: 6 Jun 91 03:21:07 GMT
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/ From: gandrews@netcom.COM (Greg Andrews)
| 
| No word yet.  No V.32bis product has been announced, so there's nothing
\ yet about an upgrade.

/ From: larry@nstar.rn.com (Larry Snyder)
| 
\ Hmm...  USR's products have been out now since December

  Yes, and we're very happy both with their performance and the company's
representatives bending overbackwards to deal with us.  (Kimberly White
of US Robotics has done everything but come out to our site and shove the
modems into our hands and has always worked like crazy to keep us up to
date with US Robotics plans and future products.  This sounds like a
sales pitch, but she's just been doing an incredible job.  I highly
recommend dealing with her and US Robotics.)

  On the other hand, we have a hell of a lot of Telebit products here
from previous purchases and we had to threaten to sell off all our
Telebit products and move to a completely new modem vendor before Telebit
would even *start* talking to us about their plans for future products
and then all we got was an assurance that, yes, they were planning a
V.32bis product sometime and that an upgrade would be available for the
T2500 for some price.  Literally.  That's all we got.

  Now I notice that Telebit has re-established itself on the network
through the work of Greg Andrews and valuable contributions from other
Telbit employees.  *YEAH!!!!!*  I applaud their re-involvement!!!

  Thus, I'm stuck in the state of not knowing just what to do ...  Since
I'm still not hearing anything from Telebit about specifics of T2500
upgrades and since the US Robotics modems work *SO* well and since
they're a heck of a lot cheaper, I'm probably going to sell off all of
our Telebit modems to other groups at our site and buy US Robotics modems.
Oh well.

/ andyb@stb.info.com (Andy B.) writes:
| 
| I notice you have a plethora of protocols there.  Do you have any
\ throughput figures?

/ From: larry@nstar.rn.com (Larry Snyder)
| 
| yes using uucp v.32bis - 1970 cps with 16 bit compressed data PEP -
\ 1300-1400 cps and v.32 900-1100 cps..

  Yet more reason to ditch PEP as soon as possible.  It no longer holds
the preeminent UUCP throughput position it once did.

  Don't get me wrong, I *have* liked Telebit products in the past.  But
one of the *PRIMARY* reasons was because of their upgrade path policies.
With scarce or no input from them, I have no options with regard to
planning our group's data communications needs.  And I just don't
understand this.  I mean, *WE'RE A BIG TELEBIT SITE*.  Just how big do
you have to get to rate special service?

  I'm sure this is just a perturbation in their company service and
history.  Unfortunately for us, we happen to be in that turbulent region
...  And again, lest I appear too negative, they have *DEFINITELY*
improved their Net Presense through the work of Greg Andrews and others
and that was as the direct result of customer input.

Casey