Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!ncar!csn!boulder!daemon From: gfw@ihburn.att.com Newsgroups: comp.dcom.sys.cisco Subject: Re: Frame Relay? Message-ID: <35672@boulder.Colorado.EDU> Date: 4 Jun 91 17:42:19 GMT Sender: daemon@boulder.Colorado.EDU Lines: 39 Linda, Another reason to use frame relay is to minimize serialization delays. Say for example that you were able to afford only a 56kbps link to a few different places, and also that your traffic is a mix of character (telnet/rlogin) and file transfer (ftp, rcp). The small telnet packets get stuck behind the large file transfer packets (which are being dribbled out at 56kbps). A 1500 byte packet would take 1500*8/56kpbs or 200ms to serialize out the interface. Studies have shown that users are willing to tolerate character echo times of slightly over 200ms if the variance is relatively small. Now considering that character echos get stuck behind large file xfer packets somewhat randomly and that when they do they get slowed down significantly, you can see that not only will the echo times be larger than the 200ms benchmark, but the variance will also be large. This drives users crazy. Frame relay helps a bit here. If you can afford a T1 for local loop (access to the frame relay network from your site), then the serialization times can be made much less, since the frame relay network should be running at T1 speeds. What you have to do then is, given the cost of private line 56kbps service and the costs of a T1 local loop with whatever framerelay charges you're likely to incur, make a decision based on the costs and service levels you can afford. What you're really doing is trading off the costs of a T1 over the full length path with the packet charges of frame relay service to the same destinations (given that the increase in local loop charges, DS0 to DS1, are affordable because of increased performance). This all depends heavily on how much frame relay costs. So this benefit, plus the use of a single outbound interface to interconnect multiple routers (as suggested by Beach) are the major pluses. Greg Wetzel +1 708 979 4782 G_F_Wetzel@att.com AT&T Bell Laboratories (IH 1B-213) 2000 N. Naperville Road Naperville, IL 60566