Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!ccu.umanitoba.ca!herald.usask.ca!alberta!aunro!ukma!rex!wuarchive!uunet!mcsun!ukc!slxsys!ibmpcug!dylan From: dylan@ibmpcug.co.uk (Matthew Farwell) Newsgroups: comp.editors Subject: Re: Simple UNIX editor Message-ID: <1991May31.093443.23588@ibmpcug.co.uk> Date: 31 May 91 09:34:43 GMT References: <1991May28.091304.3332@fennel.cc.uwa.oz.au> <1991May28.202926.12698@uwasa.fi> <1991May29.012942.28869@cbfsb.att.com> <1991May29.164828.6077@ohm.york.ac.uk> <&hcHf4qi@cs.psu.edu> Reply-To: dylan@ibmpcug.CO.UK (Matthew Farwell) Organization: The IBM PC User Group, UK. Lines: 38 In article <&hcHf4qi@cs.psu.edu> melling@cs.psu.edu (Michael D Mellinger) writes: >In article <1991May29.164828.6077@ohm.york.ac.uk> nigelm@ohm.york.ac.uk (Nigel Metheringham) writes: > > I end up with the problem, however, that gnu emacs is a >1MB image, > and does not do a great deal for the system's performance (well > actually it does - a dozen invocations of emacs slogs the > performance drastically). Thats why we only make Micro-EMACS > available for student use. > >I wonder when computer time will become less important than the user's >time? What kind of equipment are you using over across the pond? The >main binary of Emacs is shared among all the users so you are going to >have 12MB images for 12 users. How much does RAM cost in the UK? We >just bought 16MB of RAM for our NeXT Cube for $640. Hell, a 68040 >NeXTstation costs $3250 and a SPARC SLC costs $2700 at educational >prices. That's enough mips to make me add 'alias vi emacs -nw -q' to >my .cshrc. Just because it's cheap in the States doesn't mean its cheap over here. In general, when you're converting US/Canadian prices to British prices, just replace the $ sign with a pound sign(for computer related stuff). This makes a bit of a difference, with pounds being worth about 2 dollars. This tends to work for books too, with books generally being around 25 - 30 quid each here. Anyway, even if memory/mips are cheap, that doesn't mean we actually have to use them all does it? > Emacs is fine as long as you a prepared to pay the price for having > a complete operating system written in lisp within your editor! >Memmory and mips are cheap. What's the big deal? They aren't. They may be for you, but not for some of us. Dylan. -- Matthew J Farwell: dylan@ibmpcug.co.uk || ...!uunet!ukc!ibmpcug!dylan But you're wrong Steve. You see, its only solitaire.