Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!zephyr.ens.tek.com!tektronix!percy!m2xenix!puddle!f42.n161.z1.fidonet.org!Frank.Warren From: Frank.Warren@f42.n161.z1.fidonet.org (Frank Warren) Newsgroups: comp.lang.modula2 Subject: Re: TOPSPEED M-2 Message-ID: <1026.28483661@puddle.fidonet.org> Date: 31 May 91 06:02:55 GMT Sender: ufgate@puddle.fidonet.org (newsout1.26) Organization: FidoNet node 1:161/42 - Records Department, Pleasanton CA Lines: 21 Actually, Ben, even ACTOR and SMALLTALK require the SDK for any kind of custom operations. I was at the JPI rollout of the product at Software Development '91, and indeed, JPI did have Windows stuff running, and were able to fork off the JPI environment from Windows itself. I have not tried this, as I'm hip deep in other things and haven't had a chance to play, but the JPI tech support crew knows how this is done. They did have a demo running quite adequately under Windows 3.0 at that time (Feb '91). The MS Windows SDK will almost always be required for commercial products; it's the only way you can get ikons and custom install stuff at the present time. JPI has said that they are working on providing full Windows resources which will entirely replace the SDK (there are almost 1200 Windows aps already; hot market and JPI seem to be serious about staying with it). More important is that the OOP stuff is coming along well, and nothing has been "de-enhanced" along the way. The OOP feature makes some folks bristle, but there's no question that while it is a frill, it's a nice one and can be very useful once one gets the point of it all. -- uucp: uunet!m2xenix!puddle!161!42!Frank.Warren Internet: Frank.Warren@f42.n161.z1.fidonet.org