Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!uunet!mcsun!ukc!dcl-cs!gdt!bond!jpff From: jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk (John ffitch) Newsgroups: comp.misc Subject: Re: Name that character! Message-ID: <1991May31.143939.15892@maths.bath.ac.uk> Date: 31 May 91 14:39:39 GMT References: <10599@castle.ed.ac.uk> <1991May29.141937.19328@stiatl.salestech.com> <59886@aurs01.UUCP> Organization: School of Maths, Bath University, UK Lines: 25 In article <754@taumet.com> steve@taumet.com (Stephen Clamage) writes: Printers (that is, persons in the printing trade) in the US have traditionally called it "bang". Programmers in this country seem to have adopted "bang" as well. On the other hand, I've never seen or heard "pling". Would someone from some other country care to comment? I did some of my early printing while at Cambridge (the original, not the US copy) and the ! character was commonly called pling or, a little later, shriek. I did not hear bang used until after I finished my doctorate. It sounded like an Americanism at the time I remember, and was used by people in the Lab who thought that speaking american was in some ill-defined way superior :-) I am talking late 1960/early 1970s. Before the slang in the lab it was always called exclamation mark, like question mark and the other symbols. I am rather uncertain about the suggestion that we should stick to what the Jargon file says. As I understand it that is MIT slang from the mid to late 1970s, and as such is either rather old or rather young depending on one's age! The suggestion that this was the final arbiter of the language sounds to me like cultural imperialism. ==John