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From: herrickd@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com
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Subject: Re: bizarre question...
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Date: 1 Jun 91 18:18:06 GMT
References: <1991May16.201709.3086@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> <1991May20.183038.9967@watson.ibm.com> <1991May23.005453.4406@decuac.dec.com> <1991May23.032146.10692@eecs.nwu.edu>
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In article <1991May23.032146.10692@eecs.nwu.edu>, ptownson@eecs.nwu.edu (Patrick A. Townson) writes:
> In article <1991May23.005453.4406@decuac.dec.com> mjr@hussar.dco.dec.
> com (Marcus J. Ranum) writes:
> 
>>	Can you prove that I did, in fact, encrypt my data with an RSA
>> scheme, in court, without my being forced to incriminate against myself?
> 
> You would testify, alright ... the section of the Bill of Rights which
> allows you to refuse to testify or incriminate yourself applies to
> *CRIMINAL* matters ... not civil cases. It applies when there is a
> potential loss of your freedom, i.e. a prison sentence.
                         ^^^^^^^
> 
> In civil cases, people do not go to jail. You'd be sued in a civil
> action, not a criminal action ... and you would give a deposition when
> requested, or possibly be held in contempt for refusing to do so.
                                    ^^^^^^^^
> 
You just said that his freedom was not at stake then said his
freedom was at stake.  Which is it?

dan herrick
herrickd@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com