Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!wuarchive!rice!uw-beaver!cornell!rochester!kodak!uupsi!njin!limonce From: limonce@pilot.njin.net (Tom Limoncelli) Newsgroups: comp.org.usenix Subject: NNTP BOF misnamed Summary: gripe gripe gripe blah blah blah blah gripe gripe Message-ID: Date: 29 May 91 05:05:26 GMT References: <3589@litchi.bbn.com> Organization: Drew University - Madison NJ Lines: 43 Some random thoughts on the NNTP BOF. [NOTE: Feel perfectly free to ignore this article. I'm not able to make Usenix this year; so I shouldn't talk :-) ] [David Letterman-style "Ah, I remember...." screen gets wavy, eventually focuses on me at the USENIX January '90 NNTP BOF.] I stumbled into a NNTP BOF once. At the time drew.edu ("my" site) was small and we didn't need or use NNTP. Of course, if that damn NSF grant ever came through :-) we'd need to have someone that understood NNTP so I walked in. Everyone was there. Lots of good information was there. Lots of good information that was not just for NNTP managers was there. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I was *quite* upset that this had been advertised as "NNTP (and in little or non-existent letters "and Usenet") Managers BOF". Later I met a couple people that had skipped the BOF because they thought it would be NNTP-only, not for all Usenet admins. I was glad I had attended "by chance". Could we *possibly* change the name to "Usenet Site Admin BOF" or split it into 2 BOF's "News Transport Issues BOF" and "News Admins Talking About Recent Issues BOF"? Just some thoughts. Tom P.S. The time I was able to attend, I got wind of a mailing list that I now call one of the "best kept secrets of Usenet". Subscribe at nntp-managers-request@ucbvax.berkeley.edu (if that's wrong, I guess Eric will correct me), they often have conversations there that include a lot of the dirt that's good to know if you are a News Manager using *any* protocol. It has a good signal/noise ratio, which may not last if I announce it like this, but it was announced at the NNTP BOF as "essential" (footnote: I believe that word should be credited to Eric Fair). -- Tom Limoncelli tlimonce@drew.edu tlimonce@drew.bitnet 201-408-5389 "People in tight pants, moving fast."