Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!dali.cs.montana.edu!caen!spool.mu.edu!uunet!sparky!kent From: kent@sparky.IMD.Sterling.COM (Kent Landfield) Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent Subject: Posting Sources (was Re: tetris and posting sources) Keywords: sources archiving Message-ID: <1991Jun4.153842.16414@sparky.IMD.Sterling.COM> Date: 4 Jun 91 15:38:42 GMT References: <15479153@mailgsm.mendelson.com> <1991Jun3.210518.1923@risky.ecs.umass.edu> Organization: Sterling Software, IMD Lines: 70 Please read this article... In article <1991Jun3.210518.1923@risky.ecs.umass.edu> kimmel@risky.ecs.umass.edu (Mathew Kimmel) writes: >In article <15479153@mailgsm.mendelson.com> gsm@mailgsm.mendelson.com (Geoffrey S. Mendelson) writes: >>This is an explanation, not a flame, so please don't be insulted. :-) > >[stuff about posting sources deleted] > >Points taken, although other people (including Joachim) have disagreed >with you. Would it be better to post Coherent sources on, say, >alt.sources or comp.sources.misc? In the absence of a comp.sources.coherent newsgroup, I would like to see Coherent sources posted to comp.sources.misc so that they would be archived and available to people in the future. The archiving for alt.sources is spotty at best. >>I also have some complaints about how the file was sent: >> >> 1. It is too big to be edited with the STANDARD COHERENT EDITOR "me". > >Do you mean the shar file? I don't really see any other way to post >multiple files. If you had trouble unsharring it, try getting the >latest version of sh from mwcbbs, or cshar from piggy. If you mean one >of the source files, I edited them all with no problem using elvis. There are other ways but the *best* way to post multiple files is via cshar. This problem will keep popping up. People will flame others who wish to contribute their creations and hard work to their community when the sources are posted to this newsgroup. The authors will not want to contribute for fear of being this months target in the group. This group is no different than any other in this respect. This same pattern has been seen before and will be seen again. There has been a lot of discussion about where to post sources earlier in this group. Some wanted all sources posted to this group. Some wanted to create comp.sources.coherent. Others wanted to merge Minix and Coherent sources into a small unix sources group.(Yuk!) Some thought it was too soon after this group's creation to form a sources group. As moderator of comp.sources.misc I welcome any and all Coherent sources. I will gladly post anything submitted and assure that it gets archived on uunet and various other c.s.misc archives. I suspect that some time in the future there will be a comp.sources.coherent. Until that time, please do not be afraid to contribute your sources to the community. Send them to .. "sources-misc@uunet.uu.net" or to "sources-misc@sparky.imd.sterling.com". So now that we have dealt with the short term problem :-), what does it take to *solve* the problem ? First it takes a volunteer willing to spend at least 10 hours per week. The person should have Internet access to make the job much easier. A Request For Discussion (RFD) needs to be sent to David Lawerence . After a 30 day discussion period then a vote is taken. If the results of the vote show the net thinks that the group is needed then you have a new sources group. If someone thinks that they could do a good job as moderator and are able to supply a "consistent" commitment then propose a charter for the source group and get it started. There really are only two acceptable solutions in my mind. Post Coherent sources to comp.sources.misc or form your own sources newsgroup... I will help out in any way that I can. Please feel free to send me mail if you have additional questions. -Kent+ -- Kent Landfield INTERNET: kent@sparky.IMD.Sterling.COM Sterling Software, IMD UUCP: uunet!sparky!kent Phone: (402) 291-8300 FAX: (402) 291-4362 Please send comp.sources.misc-related mail to kent@uunet.uu.net.