Xref: utzoo soc.culture.british:11305 comp.protocols.tcp-ip:16367 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!spool.mu.edu!uunet!mcsun!ukc!icdoc!sot-ecs!tjc From: tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Tim Chown) Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: IP in the UK (was Re: Fingering the English) Message-ID: <7957@ecs.soton.ac.uk> Date: 4 Jun 91 08:29:51 GMT Article-I.D.: ecs.7957 References: <1991May29.095025.18273@gdr.bath.ac.uk> <1367@exua.exeter.ac.uk> <1991Jun3.235516.7634@brolga.cc.uq.oz.au> Organization: University of Southampton, UK Lines: 29 In <1991Jun3.235516.7634@brolga.cc.uq.oz.au> ggm@brolga.cc.uq.oz.au (George Michaelson) writes: >jim@cs.strath.ac.uk (Jim Reid) writes: >>In article <1367@exua.exeter.ac.uk> SAMcinty@exua.exeter.ac.uk (Scott McIntyre) writes: >>Resistance to change is a factor, but not a major one. What is more >>significant is that there is little expertise in the UK with running a >>national IP based network and it is the lack of suitably qualified and >>experienced people that makes things more awkward than they already are. >Based on my experience (pre 1987) IP introduction in JANET is almost >completely blocked by politics and bullsh. Technical issues are >smokescreens. The truth in your statement is that there is woeful ignorance >in UK campii about IP networking point blank. Its not ignorance of running >a NATIONAL IP network, its ignorance of even running CAMPUS IP networks. >We did it here in under a year. Its run by a 2-man team in Canberra and >the goodwill of computer centres across the nation. Off-the-shelf technology, >code built into virtually ALL *nix, available for VMS, VM, No mess, no >fuss, no worries mate! Here at Southampton our Electronics and Computer Science departmental connections are all TCP/IP; we have 200+ nodes on our local network. Now we're just about to have our campus network go live, and yes, it all runs by Pink Book. Our Computing Services who will adminster this beauty have had it imposed on them from above by some national committee. Yum. Somewhere someone needs their head removing from their a**e !!! Tim --