Xref: utzoo soc.culture.british:11342 comp.protocols.tcp-ip:16376 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!think.com!spool.mu.edu!uunet!munnari.oz.au!bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au!brolga!ggm From: ggm@brolga.cc.uq.oz.au (George Michaelson) Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: IP in the UK (was Re: Fingering the English) Message-ID: <1991Jun5.012700.21291@brolga.cc.uq.oz.au> Date: 5 Jun 91 01:27:00 GMT Article-I.D.: brolga.1991Jun5.012700.21291 References: <1991May29.095025.18273@gdr.bath.ac.uk> <1367@exua.exeter.ac.uk> <1991Jun3.235516.7634@brolga.cc.uq.oz.au> Organization: Prentice Computer Centre, The University of Queensland, Australia. Lines: 31 Having posted, I decided I was being overly rude. I went out and did some snmp netstats on the results of traceroute and other goodies. Suffice to say that a sweeping statement about the IP capabilities of the UK universities as a whole is a gross overgeneralization, and there are quite clearly (from the routing matrices returned by the ciscos of the UK) people out there in JANET who know *exactly* what they are doing. My comments about politics were scarcely more useful. I think they are true, but probably not worth saying. I'm interested in why layering over X.25 is being used, rather than MUXing out bandwidth and using HDLC cards in the routers. would stealing 48k or 64k splits from the X.25 lines really be that visible? The extra protocol overheads of X.25-IP barely seem worth the cost savings to me. I'd rather have the hardware anyday! -To the networks people of the JANET TCP/IP group, I abjectly apologize and take my (metaphorical) akubra off to you. I look forward to talk sessions with family & friends over these links in the not-too-distant future! -George -- George Michaelson G.Michaelson@cc.uq.oz.au The Prentice Centre | There's no market for University of Queensland | hippos in Philadelphia Phone: +61 7 365 4079 QLD Australia 4072 | -Bertold Brecht