Xref: utzoo soc.culture.british:11382 comp.protocols.tcp-ip:16387 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!uunet!mcsun!ukc!icdoc!syma!grahamt From: grahamt@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Graham S Thomas) Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: IP in the UK (was Re: Fingering the English) Message-ID: <5280@syma.sussex.ac.uk> Date: 5 Jun 91 13:39:32 GMT References: <7957@ecs.soton.ac.uk> Organization: SPRU, Univ. of Sussex, Brighton, UK Lines: 35 From article <7957@ecs.soton.ac.uk>, by tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Tim Chown): > > Here at Southampton our Electronics and Computer Science departmental > connections are all TCP/IP; we have 200+ nodes on our local network. > Now we're just about to have our campus network go live, and yes, it all > runs by Pink Book. Our Computing Services who will adminster this beauty > have had it imposed on them from above by some national committee. Yum. > Somewhere someone needs their head removing from their a**e !!! When the Coloured Book software suite was conceived, it was (according to my best information - correct me if I'm wrong) by no means clear that TCP/IP would become as dominant as it has today. In any case, the Coloured Books were always seen as ultimately giving way to full OSI protocols. Again, the originators could not have forseen that OSI would be such a long time a-comin', or that it could conceivably be threatened by semi-open protocols like TCP/IP. Admittedly, it might have taken a little too long for the JANET management to face up to commercial realities (i.e. TCP/IP comes cheaper and quicker for new machines) and user desires (the rest of the world - exaggerating a bit - uses it, so why can't we?). But early this year the decision was taken to offer TCP/IP over JANET as a supplementary protocol. My impression at this April's JANET Networkshop was that there is a lot of effort being put into its implementation, and there are a lot of potential users keen to see that this effort doesn't flag. So, hang on in there until (maybe) the beginning of '92. Already, you can transfer files to & from the Internet using uk.ac.ft-relay, and it's possible to get an account on uk.ac.nsfnet-relay from which you can telnet across the world. So it's not all doom and gloom! Graham -- Graham Thomas, SPRU, Mantell Building, U of Sussex, Brighton, BN1 9RF, UK Email: grahamt@syma.sussex.ac.uk Phone: +44 273 678165 Fax: .. 685865