Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!hellgate.utah.edu!fcom.cc.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc Subject: Re: NCSAT vs. AT&T Lan Manager(StarGROUP 3.4) Message-ID: <1991Jun2.175609.47993@cc.usu.edu> Date: 2 Jun 91 17:56:09 MDT References: <1991May29.220808.21386@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> <91150.113645U47526@uicvm.uic.edu> Organization: Utah State University Lines: 38 In article <91150.113645U47526@uicvm.uic.edu>, David E. Thomas writes: > In article <1991May29.220808.21386@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>, Tony C. Cheng > says: >> >>Does anyone have experiences on installing NCSA Telnet on the AT&T >>Lan Manager network? We recently get this network software upgrade >>from the AT&T and hope it work with NCSA Telnet packet drivers, but >>AT&T cannot give us specific information on the setup; they simply >>told us NCSAT should work along on the Lan Manager. :-< (stuff removed...) > Our experience with AT&T is that they are either unable or unwilling > to help with this dual protocol stack situation. They have tried to > do a demo for us with their own SX machine using FTP software and > have been unable to make it work (in spite of the fact that a rather > big contract hinged on its success). Trial and error has been a > much more productive avenue for us. > > Good Luck! > > David E. Thomas > University of Illinois at Chicago ----------------------------------- Oh, I think that parts of AT&T are very interested in the dual protocol approach. That means it depends on the local AT&T office at this time. FTP Software Inc can work very nicely with NDIS and StarGROUP and NetWare etc, but one has to do the configuration part (config.sys and protman.ini) correctly. The current development v1.07 dis_pkt shim for Packet Driver support has instructions and two large examples of accomplishing this. If you need the Chicago AT&T office to get up to speed have them call the Salt Lake City office and ask for Jerry Cranford, Data Technical Specialist (801) 237-1191. The comments about not much memory remaining are correct, sigh. NDIS items are hardly small (the board driver for a WD8003E eats 28KB). I think the code is sized to the specification documents (ponderous at best). At this moment I have StarGROUP, FTP Inc's kernel, NetWare shell, Novell's TES and Kermit loaded and there are a few bytes (90KB) free. Joe D.