Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rphroy!cfctech!teemc!sycom!rkushner From: rkushner@sycom.UUCP (Ronald Kushner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy Subject: Re: The Amiga's Future Message-ID: Date: 4 Jun 91 15:45:10 GMT References: <6678@vela.acs.oakland.edu> <1991Jun03.053144.3208@ariel.unm.edu> <1991Jun4.003619.3661@news.iastate.edu><1991Jun4.025024.823@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> Organization: Life In Hell BBS, Sterling Heights, MI Lines: 69 writes: >In article <1991Jun4.003619.3661@news.iastate.edu> taab5@isuvax.iastate.edu wr > > > [Where does he get these statistics?] [out of a hat!] > >> Time for a reality check. For 95% of the people in the Amiga community, >>the Toaster is totally useless. The Toaster is not going to save the >>Amiga, because it is a product intended for a very limited purpose. Few >>Amiga owners have any need whatsoever for a special-effects box, and the >>flickering display makes the Toaster unsuitable for other applications. > > Marc, are you epileptic? The reason I ask is because everytime you >make an arguement against the Amiga you always bring up the flicker. >NON-Flicker displays are expensive, NTSC incompatible, and only >useful for TEXT processing. In short, if a machine doesn't have an >interlaced display mode, it sucks. Removing flicker from the Toaster >would be idiotic. For drawing/rendering for broadcast video, flicker >is acceptable. It's besides the point anyway, since the A3000/ECS provide >non-flickering SHARP displays. Correct, YOU NEED A 2:1 INTERLACE for any professional television equipment to "sync" to it. I remember only the Amiga would drive our JVC switcher. We tried all kinds of video modes, but only in interlace mode would all the cameras, ccu's, etc, accept the Amiga video signal as the master "burst" signal to sync the whole system...OK, we were cheap and didn't have any time base correctors, but the Amiga 1000 sure did the job...Impressed the teacher so much he went out and bought two Amiga 2000's with genlocks when they were avaiable.(This was '86-'87 so the A2000 wasn't even know to exist then) Hum, you know, Channel 7 (WXYZ Detroit) news over here did a report about another television production high school class in Dearborn and I noticed they had a toaster system there(or two), so the toaster is getting the Amigas into the schools to get exposure to young minds. For such a "small" 5% market, I noticed General Television Networks(GTN) has set up a toaster suite, and I think they sell Amigas retail now as well...I have not been there in awhile...This is the place ALL the local looser cable companies buy everything from, where they go for service, and where all the schools around here running television programs go for equipment. Then again, I guess someone in Iowa dosn't see whats going on in the larger American markets. BTW: How many Amiga 2000's are out there running Preview Guide in the head-end's across America? Thats gotta be a good way to advertise..Over here its $50 a month for 1,300 ads on preview guide, and they will scan images into the ad if you like. You know, Comcast uses the Electronic Arts "King-Tut" picture on one of thier ads all the time...Maybe Commodore should look into providing "preview guide" discounts, and get an advertisement locked into the software...Would get nationwide exposure, and benifit both companies... Oh yeah, Preview Guide is on an interlaced screen, and I never said "look at that flicker", actually I don't see any flicker on my 20" RCA Dimensia.. -Ron -- C-UseNet V0.42b Ronald Kushner Life in Hell BBS +1 (313) 939-6666 P.O. Box 353 14400 USR HST V.42 & V.42bis Sterling Heights, MI 48311-0353 Complete Amiga Support UUCP: uunet!umich!vela!sycom!rkushner (We are not satanic, just NUTS!) DISCLAIMER: I say what I mean, and mean what I say.