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From: greg@hoss.unl.edu (Lig Lury Jr.)
Subject: Re: MD-BASIC (was:Re: Apple ][ BBS Software)
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danield@pro-grouch.cts.com (Daniel Davidson) writes:
>geniusman@pro-hindugods.cts.com (Chris Moylan) writes:

Er, not right.

danield@pro-grouch.cts.com (Daniel Davidson) writes:
>greg@hoss.unl.edu (Lig Lury, Jr.) writes:
>>geniusman@pro-hindugods.cts.com (Chris Moylan) writes:

>>>It is NOT based on AppleSoft Basic entirely.  It has AmperWorks and
>>>ModemWorks to give it commands AppleSoft could NEVER have otherwise.

>>Ampersand routines.  Just what we need, remembering all these extra things
>>to use if we want to code it directly in AppleSoft.  Nice that similar
>>commands are nice and straightforward in ACOS.

>Most of the ampersand commands from ModemWorks/amperworks are things you
>can't do stright from ACOS anyhow. Things like Terminal Emulation using
>Termcaps. That was something Lance Has been promising for the past several
>years with ACOS and LLUCE.

This was partially coded by The Equalizer of The Infiltrator in Lincoln,
NE, independently.

>>>BTW - I know a few BBS sysops who have dropped GBBS for ProLine, don't
>>>underestimate AppleSoft basic's flexbility. Have you ever written a ProLine
>>>application?  I have.

>>AppleSoft BASIC's inflexibility is aptly demonstrated by the need to use
>>& routines.

>ACOS's infexability is apty demonstrated by it's lack of arrays, and a
>working ON ERR GOTO tyoe statement.

One can simulate arrays in several ways.  Even AppleSoft has ON ERROR
GOTO.  ON ERROR helps to track down programming errors.

>FYI, I am a registered GBBS "Pro" sysop, and I Choose to run proline.  System
>maint is much better, and you don't have to edit the calling program (ie.
>Main.seg) to add extra programs (Like SuperTac).  Even when I was running
>GBBS "Pro" I always thought it was a kludge. It never seemed well planed or
>organized to me.

I am a registered GBBS "Pro" sysop, METAL owner, and soon to be sending in
the cards for ProLine.  However I run ACOS.  GBBS "Pro" has disappeared
under the modifications I have made.  I would probably be running METAL
right now if I had a modem that worked with it.  (I figure I'll give my
sister this one.)

>Daniel
>(root@pro-grouch)

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