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From: ianhogg@cs.umn.edu (Ian J. Hogg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: 8 mm EXABYTE on HP 835?
Message-ID: <1991Jun5.155022.3843@cs.umn.edu>
Date: 5 Jun 91 15:50:22 GMT
References: <1991May29.144907.16134@astol.astro.lu.se> <67870030@hpcupt1.cup.hp.com> <1991Jun5.145748.110969@rrz.uni-koeln.de>
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In article <1991Jun5.145748.110969@rrz.uni-koeln.de> se@IKP.Uni-Koeln.DE (Stefan Esser) writes:
>In article <67870030@hpcupt1.cup.hp.com>, cochran@hpcupt1.cup.hp.com (Bob Cochran) writes:
>After learning that even HP-UX 8.0 doesn't support variable sized partitions 
>and now, that the EXABYTE won't work, it has become obvious, that HP is 
>unable (or unwilling) to deliver what we NEED. It seems to be a specialty 
>of HP, to know their customers' needs better than the customers themselves.
>Even if HP considers DAT the better choice, I want the freedom to buy and 
>use the drives that *read my data*.
>
  I agree.  At some meetings with HP about 1 1/2 years ago I asked when they
were going to support Exabytes.  They said they had no plans unless their cus
tomers demanded it.  I immediately demanded it.  They still don't support it.

>Not being able to use EXABYTEs means
>- further upgrades of our 9000/835 are useless
>- we can't use the else very impressive 9000/700s.
>
 - I can't backup 2.2 - 5 Gb of data unattended.  
>I don't doubt, that the 9000/700 will sell well. But I very much doubt, that HP 
>will stop loosing market share, the way they ignore customers' needs.
>
   Do any of the third party suppliers hav support for the PA machines?  I used
drivers from Perfect Byte on our 300's with very good results. I never quite
succeeded in figuring out the all the bits on the minor number for the
unsupported scsi tape driver.

I think everyone should tell HP that they need support for Exabytes.  If they
don't get it, we'll go out and buy a Sun or Dec to hang it off. (I just 
happen to know that Exabytes work on those machines right out of the box).  

>Stefan
>-- 
> Stefan Esser,  Institute of Nuclear Physics,  University of Cologne,  Germany
> se@IKP.Uni-Koeln.DE                                           [134.95.192.50]


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