Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!ames!dftsrv!oneel From: oneel@heawk1.gsfc.nasa.gov ( Bruce Oneel ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Re: c++ compilers Message-ID: Date: 4 Jun 91 17:51:11 GMT References: <436@netxcom.netx.com> <1991Jun4.121248.7440@news.larc.nasa.gov> <1991Jun4.161855.3984@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> Sender: news@dftsrv.gsfc.nasa.gov Organization: STX/GSFC Nasa Lines: 74 In-reply-to: rschmidt@copper.ucs.indiana.edu's message of 4 Jun 91 16:18:55 GMT In article <1991Jun4.161855.3984@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> rschmidt@copper.ucs.indiana.edu (roy schmidt) writes: jcburt@ipsun.larc.nasa.gov (John Burton) writes: >In article <436@netxcom.netx.com> pdressne@netxcom.netx.com (Peter Dressner) writes: >> I am presently considering buying the Borland C++ compiler. I understand >> that there are 3 versions: Professional, Turbo C++ and Borland C++. > >Now, for the current version (2.xx) there are also two packages, Turbo C++ >and Borland C++. Borland C++ takes the place of Turbo C++ Professional >by including the assembler, debugger and profiler. > Actually, Borland C++ goes one step further: it supports writing code to run under MS Windows 3.0. It includes a file, a resource compiler, and the Whitewater Resource Toolkit for designing the user interface. The assembler, debugger, and profiler programs do *not* support windows. Of course, you can still do standard DOS as well. You can still get the equivalent of a TC++ professional package for standard DOS programming by purchasing the TC++ "second edition" and the Turbo Debugger and Tools 2.0 package. With their Turbo Pascal for Windows package, Borland has introduced a Turbo Debugger for Windows (I know this is off-subject a little, but I am anticipating a question, here). This new debugger only handles Pascal, and only Windows apps. As far as that goes, TPW only produces code for Windows apps. You have to use TP 6.0 if you want to write standard DOS programs in Pascal. This reflects a new tactic for Borland: segmenting the market between regular DOS and Windows. For those wanting to do both, you wind up with more than one compiler! I guess you could argue for specialization, better features, etc. Have to wait and see how the laundry comes out. A quick summary which might correct any incorrect impressions from the above. I have no conection with borland. The big one is that you do get Turbo Debugger for Windows with BC++. Obviously, if one wants a full feature list call borland. They can do a much better job. BC++ 2.0 ================= DOS and Windows executables IDE runs in DOS mode only, though will run as a dos program under STANDARD mode windows. Debugger and Profiler -- DOS only just like Turbo C++ Pro. TDW -- Turbo Debugger for Windows, Windows only TASM -- Object files for both windows? and dos. White Water toolkit -- Windows resources Protected mode versions of most tools which are loads faster. Assorted other programs TC++ =================== DOS only compiler, basically just the IDE. No external TD, or profiler, or assembler Tools ================== Turbo debugger, assembler, and profiler (and maybe some additional) Turbo Pascal 6.0 ================== Dos only pascal compiler. Just the IDE basically Turbo Pascal 6.0 Pro ================== Think of it as Turbo Pascal 6.0 + Tools + a protected mode compiler. Turbo Pascal for Windows ================= Just windows executables. IDE runs under windows. Includes TDW. -- Bruce O'Neel oneel@heasfs.gsfc.nasa.gov NASA/GSFC/STX/Code 664