Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!think.com!spool.mu.edu!agate!stanford.edu!leland.Stanford.EDU!leland.Stanford.EDU!fangchin From: fangchin@leland.Stanford.EDU (Chin Fang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware Subject: Re: Where's the i860? (was Re: 486SX - Intel now telling lies) Message-ID: <1991Jun2.182620.5104@leland.Stanford.EDU> Date: 2 Jun 91 18:26:20 GMT Article-I.D.: leland.1991Jun2.182620.5104 References: <1991May29.230433.10095@maverick.ksu.ksu.edu> <1991May30.164751.16585@thyme.jpl.nasa.gov> <1991May31.183111.16505@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> <1991Jun2.030215.11584@unixland.natick.ma.us> <1991Jun2.041512.29546@leland.Stanford.EDU> <30379@hydra.gatech.EDU> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: AIR, Stanford University, CA 94305 USA Lines: 60 In article <30379@hydra.gatech.EDU>, hh2@prism.gatech.EDU (HAAS) writes: |> In article <1991Jun2.041512.29546@leland.Stanford.EDU> fangchin@leland.Stanford.EDU (Chin Fang) writes: |> >In article <1991Jun2.030215.11584@unixland.natick.ma.us>, bill@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Heiser) writes: |> >|> In article <1991May31.183111.16505@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> tmkk@uiuc.edu (K. Khan) writes: |> >|> > |> >|> >It means that Intel is scared silly of the industry's upcoming move to |> >|> >the MIPS RISC chips, and is going to milk us for every single cent it |> >|> >can while it is still able to do so. |> >|> |> >|> How does the i486 compare with the 20 - 30 MIPS of the SUN Sparc chips? |> >|> How about the MIPS chips? |> >|> |> > |> >Hi Bill :-) and everyone, |> > |> >I try to stay objective. Let's use i486 33Mhz as baseline for the CISC side, |> >and IBM POWER archecture as the RISC side baseline. |> > |> >Assuming that everything runs in memory, then i486 33 Mhz offers you about 21 |> >MIPS and less then 2 MegaFLOPS. Now IBM RISC POWERstation 320 20Mhz offers |> >you 29.5 MIPS and 8.5 MFLOPS. So given enough memory to both, i486 33Mhz |> |> ( body of nicely written survey deleted ) Thank you. |> |> >Remember even Intel had to venture into RISC and made this i860? And lot's |> >people use it as graphic coprocessor or numerical coprocessor, why? RISC, |> >=> superior floating point performance (> 30 MegaFLOPS), that is. |> |> 80 MFLOPS (FP multiply/accumulate in one clock cycle) SO . . . . . Yours uses high end i860 chip. Man! My face is green with envy now :-( I certainly know how to put 80 MFLOPS into good use :-) |> Where are the i860 based machines ?!? YEARS ago (it seems) when IBM [some stuff deleted] Our EECF (electrical engineering computing facility) here has a multi-i860 machine made by FPX (I think) running multiprocessor SYSV UNIX. If you need more info, please email me and I will give you a name for more. |> Would they ever sell an RS/6000 then? Locus probably doesn't because |> IBM won't let them. What about SCO or interactive? |> I like to hear some insight info about this too. I also have been curious for quite a while already. |> 80 MFLOPS. |> Hmmm.... really enticing. A beauty indeed :-) Chin Fang Mechanical Engineering Department Stanford University fangchin@leland.stanford.edu