Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!ncar!hsdndev!dartvax!mars!nic!news.cs.brandeis.edu!chaos.cs.brandeis.edu!aland From: aland@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Alan D.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system Subject: Re: Apple should let us e-mail System 7 Message-ID: Date: 29 May 91 05:37:16 GMT References: <6944@cactus.org> <1991May15.185019.1395@eng.umd.edu> <52925@apple.Apple.COM> <1991May15.221944.2905@eng.umd.edu> Sender: usenet@news.cs.brandeis.edu Reply-To: aland@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu Organization: As little as possible Lines: 57 russotto@eng.umd.edu (Matthew T. Russotto) writes: >In article <52925@apple.Apple.COM> bc@Apple.COM (bill coderre) writes: >>Matthew Russotto: >>|The checker lies like a rug. Apple made, IMO, a big mistake in accepting >>|mfgr's word for it rather than testing themselves-- it looks like the mfgrs >>|said that things wouldn't work just to get customers to shell out the $$ for >>|an upgrade. >>Note that your definitions might be different: Apple would not claim a >>piece of software was "compatible" or "mostly compatible" if it >>crashed randomly but infrequently. In the case of MacWrite II, "mostly >>compatible" means that it doesn't work right with True Type fonts >>bigger than 127 points. As best I know (and I am not one of the >>testers) avoiding fonts >127 points means that MacWrite II doesn't >>have any problems. >> >>Apple also elected not to provide detailed reports of exactly what the >>problems were in its stack. This definitely hampers the cheapskate who >>won't upgrade his/her software, but has the side-effect of making the >>stack fit on less than 100 disks. >Cheapskate? I have 21 pieces of software listed as 'Must Upgrade'. Figure >out the price of THAT! While I feel the same way... The fact is that you can't tell whether the problem with the software will be a little thing, like MacWrite's problem, or a major thing that will completely trash your hard drive. And, for the first time, Apple tried to find out where those problems might arise... >Some, like Silverlining, is obvious crap-- SilverLining works, except that >you can't unmount volumes (DeskTop manager interferes). Well, if you can't unmount volumes (I have the same problem), it doesn't work, now, does it? And I think I remember hearing somewhere that there were other problems under VM... Or maybe 32bit addressing... Not sure. But just the same, would you say that Silverlining works with System 7, when you can't unmount volumes??? I could with DM under 6.0.x... And, a little hint. If you really have to unmount a volume, DiskTop 4.01 works. :) Not a flame, I'm just tired of hearing people torch Apple for including a compatibility checker that feels "better safe than sorry"... How would you feel if Apple had told you things were fine, and a program trashed your drive? Better or worse? =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Who, me? Nope, I didn't say that. Must have been my evil twin Who am I? aland@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu Where am I? Brandeis University Box 3130 Waltham, MA 02254-9110 When am I? 9-5, M-F, Rain-Shine Why am I? Whaddyawant, a philosopher? =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=