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From: espen@math.uio.no
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Subject: Re: TrueTypes and Bitmaps together?
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Date: 5 Jun 91 13:48:34 GMT
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In article <1930006@hp-vcd.HP.COM> neff@hp-vcd.HP.COM (Dave Neff) writes:
>>But then - Helvetica Narrow (which I thought was acting ok again after 
>>being unusable in systems 6.0.4-6.0.7) strikes again!!!  When I select a 
>>size of Helvetica which I also have a Helvetica Narrow bitmap font for, 
>>Helvetica Narrow shows up on the screen!
>>Could someone please finally explain me what's wrong with Helvetica 
>>Narrow???
>
>I can't explain it, but Helvetica Narrow has given me problems too.
>I removed all Helvetica Narrow fonts (I only had bitmaps) from my
>System (7) file.  There were no more Helvetica Narrow fonts in the
>system.  I tripple checked.  But EVERY application insisted Helvetica
>Narrow was available for use, yet when I would try to apply this font
>attribute I would only get the default font (Geneva I think).  Finally,
>I just gave up and put the helv bitmaps back in my system.  After all, if
>the applications are gonna insist I have the font, I might as well really
>have it.  These were not True Type fonts of course, just the bitmapped fonts
>that are optional fonts for the DeskWriter (I also have
>Helvetica Narrow outline fonts but those are only used by the DeskWriter
>printer driver when printing, not for screen display).
>

I experienced just what you describe.  To stop Helvetica Narrow from appearing
in font menus, I had to use ResEdit to remove the FOND resource.

But then for the good news: It seems I have finally managed to clean it up now,
by using some newer Helvetica Narrow fonts I found on a local server.  I can't
tell their origin, but I suspect them to have come with a newer printer.  The
font suitcase included style fonts for all the LW Plus/IINT(X) fonts, but no
TrueType fonts.

So if you have a Helvetica Narrow problem, try to get hold of fresh screen
fonts, for instance fonts supplied with a recently buyed Laser Printer!  To be
sure, I would recommend removing every trace of the old fonts with ResEdit
before installing the new ones.

-espen