Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!aero-c!gumby.dsd.trw.com!deneva!news From: thomsen@spf.trw.com (Mark R. Thomsen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next Subject: Re: DCT(JPECG), WAVELET on NeXTDimension Message-ID: <284849F5.6745@deneva.sdd.trw.com> Date: 2 Jun 91 01:29:24 GMT References: <1991May30.233044.7890@spool.cs.wisc.edu> Sender: news@deneva.sdd.trw.com Organization: TRW Inc., Redondo Beach, CA Lines: 30 Soo Lee writes Hi all, I am afraid that C-CUBE is changing their mind on JPEG chip. As I learned that DTC(Discrete Cosine Transformation) is implemented on JPEG chip, I am puzzled why they didn't switch to WAVELET algorithm which appears better, cheaper and faster than DTC algorithm. It is not clear from our work here that a Wavelet (nee Gabor logon) compression approach is better, cheaper, or faster. While decompression is almost definitely faster, compression has proven to be slow. The main problem we see in JPEG has been energy loss when dropping DCT coefficients. To preserve energy would require more computations and decision branches in the algorithm - making chips more expensive and forbidding designs. The lossy Wavelet approach has an energy drop too, though the artifacts are different. The differences is better or worse depending on the image used and the viewer ... too subjective. I think there is so much work to be done in image compression that it is premature to fixate on a single approach. If a C-Cube chip is low enough price and can support 20:1 ratios to match NTSC:disk drive then it is fine, until the dust settles a bit more. With the JPEG push there will be low commercial support for Wavelet chips, software, and file exchange for a while. Use the first standard to enhance exchange and functions until there truely is a better algorithmic chip/circuit. Of course, it would be lovely if the daughter board approach could support such a switch in the future. Mark R. Thomsen