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From: barry@pico.math.ucla.edu (Barry Merriman)
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Subject: Re: what are your UNIX-NeXTStep conflicts (was Re: UI idea)
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Date: 4 Jun 91 21:54:16 GMT
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In article <1651@toaster.SFSU.EDU> eps@cs.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) writes:

>There's entirely too much focus on "applications for morons," ...
>which provide no feedback about what they're REALLY doing 
>so you don't LEARN anything, and can't fix things when they break ...  
>These guys haven't got a clue.  When I set up machines, 
>I decided how *I* wanted them configured, not from what a braindead 
>GUI app thought was "good enough." ...  You don't get that from clicking 
>buttons.  You get that from using the lower-level tools 



Absolutely! And there's also too much focus on "programming for morons",
which provides no feedback on what they're REALLY doing
so they don't LEARN anything, and can't fix things when they break.
Those programmers haven't got a clue. When I write software, I code it the 
way *I* want it, not the way some braindead compiler thought
was "good enough". You don't get that by using "languages",  You
get that from using lower-level tools: coding in binary and entering 
your code by reconnecting the cables on the switchboard. This way when 
something breaks, I can see exactly which cable came loose or
which tube burned out, and replace it.

>The NeXT is a damn fine UNIX box, and don't you forget it.
>
>					-=EPS=-

The ENIAC is a damn fine box of vacuum tubes, and don't you forget it.

:-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

(PS: no flame intended---just remeber, one man's low level tools are
another man's high level tools :-)



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Barry Merriman
UCLA Dept. of Math
UCLA Inst. for Fusion and Plasma Research
barry@math.ucla.edu (Internet)   barry@arnold.math.ucla.edu (NeXTMail)