Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!lll-winken!iggy.GW.Vitalink.COM!widener!netnews.upenn.edu!vax1.cc.lehigh.edu!cert.sei.cmu.edu!krvw From: RADAI@HUJIVMS.BITNET (Y. Radai) Newsgroups: comp.virus Subject: Re: Interesting advert (PC) Message-ID: <0003.9105311330.AA00359@ubu.cert.sei.cmu.edu> Date: 30 May 91 12:52:00 GMT Sender: Virus Discussion List Lines: 52 Approved: krvw@sei.cmu.edu Kenny Stevenson writes: >Just read an interesting ad in Personal Computer Magazine, April 1991 >VNU 404, page 135. It seems that most of us can now sleep easy if the >claim made in this advert is true - what will all you EXPERTS do ?! ..... >Vaccine anti-virus system - "Vaccine is virus-non specific detection >software. It uses cryptographic checksums to monitor the state of >executables on a PC or file-server. Any change, however caused will >be detected. Since Vaccine does not need to know about particular >viruses in order to detect them, it is future proof. Once installed, >Vaccine will detect all viruses, past, present and future." ..... >Comments welcome ! (and I can't imagine that there woun't be some) There is absolutely nothing new in this ad. There are zillions of checksum programs for the PC which claim to do the very same thing. However, there are three things to note: (1) They cannot distinguish between an actual viral infection and (say) replacement of an old version of a program by a new one; this is left to the user to decide. (2) The vast majority of such programs cannot really catch *all* infec- tions because DOS has loopholes which the authors of these programs are unaware of. (3) This method only *detects* infections after they have occurred; it does not prevent or remove them, so there's still a wee bit left for the "experts" to do. Actually, there is one such program, V-Analyst, which goes a long way toward solving all three problems: (1) It can distinguish between the above two situations in *most* cases. (2) It checks for three loopholes and takes the necessary measures. (3) It contains a *generic disinfector* which, when a modification is detected, will attempt to restore the file to its original condition. If the modification is due to a virus, it can do this in the great majority of cases (regard- less of whether the virus is known or unknown). Moreover, there is never any danger of its performing an incorrect restoration. (Features (1) and (3) are available only in the new version 3.0, not yet offi- cially released.) I'm willing to bet that Vaccine doesn't come anywhere near this. Padgett Peterson to Kenny:: >Question: when does it go resident ? If from CONFIG or later, you know > my opinion. Answer: Who says a checksum program has to go resident at all?? Most checksum programs I know of (incl. Vaccine and V-Analyst) can (or must) be run without going resident. Y. Radai Hebrew Univ. of Jerusalem, Israel RADAI@HUJIVMS.BITNET RADAI@VMS.HUJI.AC.IL