Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!uunet!munnari.oz.au!metro!extro!objtch From: objtch@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Peter Goodall) Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms Subject: Re: Programming Windows Message-ID: Date: 4 Jun 91 00:52:09 GMT References: <11803@skye.cs.ed.ac.uk> <1991May31.235223.12730@serval.net.wsu.edu> Sender: news@metro.ucc.su.OZ.AU Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia Lines: 40 Nntp-Posting-Host: extro.ucc.su.oz.au ckinsman@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (Chris Kinsman) writes: >In article <11803@skye.cs.ed.ac.uk> db@lfcs.ed.ac.uk (Dave Berry) writes: >>What tools do people recommend for programming Windows? I know of the >>following: >> >>Microsoft SDK. >> >>Borland C++ (and other languages). >> >>Digitalk Smalltalk/V. >> >>Which of these are best? Are there any others I should look at? Please >>bear in mind that I'm on a very limited budget. >> >>Are there any free C++ classes for programming Windows, like the InterViews >>library for X? >> >>I suspect that the Smalltalk approach is probably the easiest, because >>the system should take care of memory management and lots of low-level >>details. >> >I would suspect Microsofts new Visual Basic would be the easiest. It will >be listing for $199 and not require the SDK which would make it a fairly >reasonable way to start into windows development. I believe that it's still the dreaded BASIC. Listen folks, its time to get some real development leverage. Look carefully at other languages like Smalltalk and forget writing linked-lists and dictionaries, also let the system do your iteration for you. I can't remember having an off-by-one iteration error in two years (well maybe one :-). Also you can forget about those damned pointers, and long compile-link cycles. -- Peter Goodall - Smalltalk Systems Consultant - objtch@extro.ucc.su.oz.au ObjecTech Pty. Ltd. - Software Tools, Training, and Advice 162 Burns Bay Rd, LANE COVE, NSW, AUSTRALIA. - Phone/Fax: +61 2 418-7433