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From: stripes@eng.umd.edu (Joshua Osborne)
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Subject: Re: Some Very Basic Questions
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Date: 5 Jun 91 12:27:55 GMT
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In article <8147@auspex.auspex.com> guy@auspex.auspex.com (Guy Harris) writes:
>>If you read the question, Bob asked 'what is open-look?' Sun's XView
>>is only one implementation of an OpenLook compliant environemnt, and
>>you are right that it is not public domain. There are, however, other
>>implementations which, perhaps not public domain, are certainly free.
>>One is included on the X11R4 release tape.

>The only OPEN LOOK release I know of on the X11R4 release tape is called
>"XView" and, as you note, it's not public-domain.  It *is* free, and
>available in source form, however.

Buzzz!  Sorry but there are at-least 2 certified OpenLook environemnts, and
some extra OpenLook toolkits (and environemnts) that may or may not have been
certified.

(note when I use the term "toolkit" below I don't mean to imply that I am
talking about Xt, or an Xt baised set of widgets).

Sun's (not-quite-PD, but fairly close) XView which you mentioned is a certified
toolkit (not enviroment).

Sun also has a not-PD OpenLook environemnt that comes with the X/NeWS server
(the X/NeWS server, XView toolkit, and assorted other cruftyed all go under
the single name OpenWindows, but I don't know what the name for just the
environemnt (file manager, shelltool, etc.).

I breifly saw a tape Sun shipped us that had OpenLook-looking versions of
mail tool, tape tool, etc for SunView (which I don't use); I don't know if
this included a SunView OpenLook toolkit or not.  This is almost definitly
no longer a Sun supported item.

I think Sun has a OpenLook toolkit for NeWS (their Display Postscript [which
I think they wrote before Adobie wrote Display Postscript]), it might be
called TnT, hold on I'll check.  Sorry I couldn't find the manual.

AT&T has a certified toolkit, OLIT (it has also been refered to as Xt+).  I
don't know if they have a environemnt, but I have seen _lot's_ of pictures
from an OLIT OpenLook environemnt (I know it isn't XView, OLIT does a poor
job of drawing rounded buttons, and there are a few other visual clues).

There is a PD (I think it was PD, it may have only been freely-redistributable)
toolkit that claimed to do "large parts" of both Motif and OpenLook.

Solbourne sells OI, which is a C++ toolkit that does both OpenLook and Motif
(selectable at runtime).

Out of this entire list I have only written code with XView.  I have used
OLIT programs.  I have a great desire to use OI.  I havn't used any of the
other toolkits.  I don't use the OpenLook environemnt (I like tvtwm, xterm,
and use them).
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