Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!uunet!tymix!tardis!oliveb!bunker!wtm From: rudy@mtqua.att.com (Rudy Vener) Newsgroups: misc.handicap Subject: Re: COCHLEAR IMPLANT Message-ID: <15937@handicap.news> Date: 2 Jun 91 12:07:54 GMT References: <15771@handicap.news> Sender: wtm@bunker.isc-br.com Reply-To: rudy@mtqua.att.com (Rudy Vener) Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 44 Approved: wtm@hnews.fidonet.org Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference Index Number: 15937 In article <15771@handicap.news> Stephen.White@p1.f853.n681.z3.fidonet.org writes: >Index Number: 15771 > > JC> I've been attempting to learn lipreading for 44 of my 49 years. A > JC> study sponsored by an oralist school some years ago found that > JC> lipreading under the best of conditions is only 26% effective. > JC> So much for the glories of lip-reading. > >Jay, it isn't much use posting this type of stuff when it is so >easily proved wrong. It doesn't do much for your credibility, and >will cause doubt to be cast on other data that you supply. > >I, for one, have far more than a meagre 26% effectiveness rate when >I am lipreading, even under the most adverse conditions. I have >lipread people successfully under starlight, in disco strobe >lights, and from just about every angle except from the back of >their heads. I only have trouble understanding about 1 in 50 >people. Jay, Steve: Before we can make any claims about the rightness or wrongness OF THE STUDY (not the individuals ability) we would need to know how it was performed. My experience with clinical tests is that they try to eliminate extraneous variables and measure only ONE THING at a time. When I speechread I do quite a bit more than simply follow the lip movements and mechanically convert them to words. I am sure every speechreader out there makes extensive use of contextual cues, educated guesswork, knowledge of the speakers speech pattersn, and a pheneomena which for lack of a better name I call expectancy of dialogue. If the subjects were asked to interpret a number of unconnected words or even a number of unconnected sentences rather than a self consistent, self reinforcing speech then all the little additional aids we speechreaders use are lost. In this case a 26 percent accuracy rate might be pretty good. -- Rudy Vener AT&T BTL uucp: att!mtqua!rudy internet: rudy@mtqua.att.com