Xref: utzoo news.admin:14830 news.software.b:8085 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!hobbes.physics.uiowa.edu!maverick.ksu.ksu.edu!deimos.cis.ksu.edu!mccall.com!tp From: tp@mccall.com (Terry Poot) Newsgroups: news.admin,news.software.b Subject: Re: Really funny jokes being missed Message-ID: <1991May31.171651@mccall.com> Date: 31 May 91 22:16:51 GMT References: <1991May28.070326.25818@micrognosis.co.uk> <1991May31.124723.12465@micrognosis.co.uk> Reply-To: tp@mccall.com (Terry Poot) Organization: The McCall Pattern Co., Manhattan, KS, USA Lines: 31 In article <1991May31.124723.12465@micrognosis.co.uk>, nreadwin@micrognosis.co.uk (Neil Readwin) writes: >So ... I still say that I would rather lose news than have old new >recirculated. Maybe I'm missing something, a I haven't run B news for several years, but doesn't B news manage to avoid both problems? As I understand it, it does parse the date, and ignores old news, without dropping news on the floor that has otherwise been acceptable to the net for many years. However, as I've said, I have no problem with the transition to official standards, just the way it was accomplished. I do firmly agree that all software that generates non-compliant headers should be fixed. I disagree that a reasonable and effective way to accomplish that is to simply ignore all news from sites that run such software, without bothering to tell them about it. On the other hand, I've said that I don't know how many times, and the responses are generally on another tangent, so I give up. Nobody is going to do anything about this problem. Sites will eventually find out their postings are going into a black hole. After much frustration and ranting and raving at not having been told, they will fix their software. In other words, the current situation and attendant flamage will be with us for a long time, because nobody in the C news camp finds this situation unacceptable, and, of course, nobody else can do much about it. I don't think that's an appropriate way to improve the net, but I guess I'm in the minority here. -- Terry Poot The McCall Pattern Company (uucp: ...!rutgers!ksuvax1!deimos!mccall!tp) 615 McCall Road (800)255-2762, in KS (913)776-4041 Manhattan, KS 66502, USA