Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!wuarchive!udel!brahms.udel.edu!jms From: jms@brahms.udel.edu (John Milbury-Steen) Newsgroups: rec.birds Subject: recognition Message-ID: <21828@brahms.udel.edu> Date: 31 May 91 13:48:03 GMT Organization: University of Delaware Lines: 31 I have been interested in the discussion about whether the birds "know who is feeding them." Are you sure they are not simply doing a mechanical Pavlovian response, such as "presence of this guy" means "food is on the way"? It may be even more simple-minded, since they apparently will not recognize you without the right jacket: "sight of red jacket" indicates "food is on the way." Of course we all like to be loved, and it is normal to project gratitude onto our bird friends, but a little positive conditioning could simulate affection, could it not? It is quite a leap from this statement: "when the birds see my red jacket, they wait for food" to this conclusion: "the birds know that I am feeding them" or even more radical conclusions: "the birds are grateful to me and love me." (I know this is provocative and don't mind a lot of flames.) -- | John Milbury-Steen (302)451-2698 jms@sun.acs.udel.edu | | Office of Academic Computing and Instructional Technology | | University of Delaware Newark DE 19716 | | "Intelligence goes senile, repentence lasts forever." |