Xref: utzoo sci.electronics:20528 sci.misc:5083 soc.college:8243 soc.misc:2255 rec.aviation:36941 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!uunet!wuarchive!udel!rochester!cornell!uw-beaver!ssc-vax!bcsaic!snicoud@boeing.com From: snicoud@boeing.com (Stephen L Nicoud) Newsgroups: sci.electronics,sci.misc,soc.college,soc.misc,rec.aviation Subject: SORRY Summary: Haven't we already gotten a pound of flesh? Keywords: apology, reply, tempered response Message-ID: <48316@bcsaic.UUCP> Date: 30 May 91 21:36:09 GMT References: Sender: nntp@bcsaic.UUCP Organization: Boeing Computer Services Research and Technology, Bellevue, WA USA Lines: 47 Originator: snicoud@atc.boeing.com In article callahan@cs.jhu.edu (Paul Callahan) writes: >In article <12594@uwm.edu> iluvls@convex.csd.uwm.edu (James E Parks) writes: >> [profuse apologies, ending with:] >> >> P.S. >> >> I am all for Death to DAVE RHODES > >This is the most pathetic thing I've seen in my life. My translation reads: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Are you sure about that? The "most pathetic thing"? In your _life_? I can think of a lot of things more pathetic than that and I'm sure you can, too. >"I'm very sorry, but I sure hope they get that other guy who put me up to it." >Is there no longer any such thing as taking personal responsibility? I'm >willing to forgive purely moronic behavior, but not when it has this sort >of sentiment tacked on to the end. No flame intended here, but I think you are being overly harsh. I've seen the messages from the postmaster at the UWM site and feel more than satisfied that the "offender" was just plain naive and ignorant. He has obviously been educated (albeat with a firehose). The postmaster described the user as being extremely "contrite" about his action. It's pretty clear that James pushed one of your hot buttons. But it isn't clear that any great harm was done. James' posting was followed with more than enough articles that made it clear to readers that the activity was illegal and not appropriate. The "Dave Rhoades" postings have been appearing for years. James won't be the last one to do it. I know, through the postmaster at UWM, that James is very much aware of the trouble he has caused and why his posting triggered it. I don't believe, however, that continued berating will accomplish much. Like I said at the beginning, this is not meant as a flame. Think of it as a request for a tempered response to James' apology. Best Regards, Stephen -- Stephen L Nicoud uw-beaver!bcsaic!snicoud Boeing Computer Services Research and Technology, Computer Science Bellevue, Washington USA