Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!uunet!ogicse!milton!hlab From: iaf@uk.ac.cam.cl.ely (Innes Ferguson) Newsgroups: sci.virtual-worlds Subject: Re: VR and databases Message-ID: <1991Jun3.155224.4132@milton.u.washington.edu> Date: 3 Jun 91 13:09:04 GMT References: <1991May30.174424.19301@milton.u.washington.edu> Sender: hlab@milton.u.washington.edu (Human Int. Technology Lab) Organization: University of Washington Lines: 44 Approved: cyberoid@milton.u.washington.edu In <1991May30.174424.19301@milton.u.washington.edu> M22367@mwvm.mitre.org writes: >IMHO, the representation of data as three dimensional VR objects is extremely >desirable. A database management system is, after all, an artifact introduced >by the tools we are using (computers). Once we can manipulate the 'objects' we are interested in (people, companies, data streams) using 'tools' >that are not available to us in the 'real' world we will have achieved a >great deal. You seem to be confusing representation of data (or knowledge, more generally) with methods for visualizing it. Simply representing data as 3-D objects doesn't even begin to address what is arguably the most important issue in AI: knowledge representation. Data/knowledge items, 3-D or otherwise, still have to have a meaning, still have to be associated with other knowledge items, still have be to inferenced upon, etc. And these issues are completely tool-independent. So, the same old questions that keep AI people busy are also going to keep the visual database people busy. If anything, VR techniques will generate more questions than answers since the techniques will create so many new opportunities. >Imagine examining a company's budget by watching the money actually >flow in the door and to the various departments. Using 'the hand of god', >you implement.... [rest deleted] Your example is interesting, but it is just an example. As soon as you start addressing common features among such examples, you'll be faced with questions that have little to do with whether the data items are presented to the user as 3-D objects. Regards... Innes ============================================================================= Innes A. Ferguson Computer Laboratory, University of Cambridge, Pembroke St., Cambridge CB2 3QG, England, UK. BITNET: iaf@cl.cam.ac.uk JANET: iaf@uk.ac.cam.cl Tel.: +44 223 334421 FAX: +44 223 334678 =============================================================================