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From: gazit@cs.duke.edu (Hillel Gazit)
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Subject: Re: Sexism vs. Men's Oppression
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Date: 3 Jun 91 23:35:15 GMT
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In article <91151.135451DOCTORJ@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> DOCTORJ@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Jon J Thaler) writes:

>For example, the all-male draft is not seen by all men as oppressing men.  

And the traditional "deal" for women is not seen by all women as 
oppressing women, the anti-ERA women for example.

>Also, I think that it is easily demonstrable that the alimony,
>child support, and custody laws predate the existence of NOW or any
>other effective "women's" lobby.  They date from a time when women
>were not supposed to be out working.

Thanks for telling us that the federal mandatory child's support guideline 
pre-dated NOW, I hope that you know when NOW was founded BTW...

Anyway, if feminism was a real equal rights movement then it would look for 
ways for *equal* rights, not for excuses like "it happened before I came."