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From: al885@cwns9.ins.cwru.edu (Gerard Pinzone a.k.a. Ataru Moroboshi)
Newsgroups: soc.feminism
Subject: Top of the Heap...
Summary: Who is on top?
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Date: 4 Jun 91 17:52:01 GMT
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In article <1991May29.182720.349@MDI.COM>, gannon@MDI.COM (Alden Gannon) says:
>Based on my experiences, and those of many other men, men do not feel
>oppressed by women per se.  In fact, oppression is prehaps too strong a term.
>Men feel *disadvantaged* in at least the following areas in society:
>
>1.  The draft (this one is more like oppression).
>2.  Parental choice (Women have it, men don't).
>3.  Alimony, child support, and custody.
>4.  Rape and domestic abuse law.
>5.  Affirmative Action for only women and minorities.
>6.  Hate crimes against gay men (this one *is* oppression).

  [...stuff deleted...]

>If men hold the power, where did I get my six points?  Why is it in the
>interests of men to create AA, or sexist abuse laws?  Men do *not* hold
>sovereignty (in the Rouseauian sense).  It is held by powerful voting
>constituencies; one of which is NOW.

I'm not going to disagree with you, also, I read your later message and
I will not dispute the fact that voting-wise, women can hold more power.

However, the accepted view is that the white-male is in charge of the
world. Now while being on top has its advantages, you do end up with
some problems....some of those you have mentioned. This is a characteristic of
being at "the top of the heap". Just like the good 'ol USA can't
bomb smaller countries that terrorize us and our citizens, men will not
ususally be take seriously when associated with discrimination.

There is another edge to this sword, a minority will never pull itself
out of its class until it stops acting like one. This is a good reason
why orientals are making it in this society rather than African-americans,
etc... Orientals never 
blame others for their problems whether they have truly been put
down or not. Instead, they take the responsibility for their actions
and have become part of the "upper classes"....

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